with us now, wilbur ross, w.l. ross chairman and ceo.g toward the fire and not away from it. let's go macro to start. why do you do that? how does it work so well for you? >> i don't know how to do anything else. liz: genetic, isn't it. >> don't have much choice. liz: talk about what you're doing these days. there are regions right now, not specifically sectors but regions you're looking at you find extremely attractive. >> we're particularly looking at southern europe. as you know from prior shows we've been looking at it for a quite a while. we think make now is time to do something particularly in a place like greece. i'm impressed they're hitting the long-term debt market for the first time in quite a few years because they already achieved getting a primary surplus. namely a budget surplus before debt service. if they can bring the cost of debt service down and get access to the market, you have a whole new ballgame. david: by the way it was only two years ago, 2012, when a 10-year greek bond was yielding 28%. >> that's right. david