there was the reason i was talking about that. it was still the western edge of virginia and across from west virginia which seceded during the civil war. and burr wasn't there. it was a rookie mistake. it made it answerable after 14 witnesses. justice marshall said down the prosecution case and sent it to the jurors. it didn't stop the lawyers from speaking at extraordinary length. one of the lawyers, i take some pride in him. will reputed for drinking brandy throughout the trial. he always kept his mug field and gave an argument that lasted 14 hours. i will speak for less. the final motions, he spoke for three days for 21 hours and the people who left it were amazed. he did repeat himself. they were sort of board but they said his energy was remarkable as was the fact that he never got worse -- horse. one of the prosecutors gave a speech that lived in american oratory for 100 years. the school children were forced to memorize the letter hasn't speech in which the prosecutors contrasted of the innocent dupe with this evil burr. he compa

he was the first to acknowledge that, saying that was not his strength. he was a bad father and a bad husband. on the other hand, he said to his second wife, quite clearly that he was going to be engaging in relationships and she accepted it. >> the second wife? >> yes. >> that is elsa. >> yes, that doesn't excuse it, but he is not hypocrite call about it. >> did he have children with her? >> no, they were first cousins. >> was skitsfrania in there with some children, by her previous children? >> no, it was the second son by milava and he had a history of skitsofrania. her sister was committed in switzerland and it is conceivable that the mother also had it. >> disabilities on his side? >> not that we know of. certainly he blamed her. >> well when he died, his brain was extracted and his eyes were extracted. and the rest was cremated. correct? >> yes. >> the brain was then divided into parts, was it not? >> yes. >> many parts. like over 200? >> yes, i think it was 400. >> was it reas assembled? >> i don't think so. >> they have reconstructed it on the base of th

her name was eva, and she was exotic, lovely and magnetic and 42. >> eva was always living like she was 22, care-free, very young for her age. she was fun and she was generous, and she'd light up a room. she's the person you call. and no matter what, you always feel better for what she had to say. >> she told her niece, lannelle piro, about the young man. stephen was just 25, not that it mattered. >> i he is he had come over to the house one day. >> came to hang out with eva's son who made the introduction. >> i remember she called me and told me she met this really nice guy. he's really good looking, you know. >> it was instant chemistry. >> he was obviously attracted to her. who wouldn't be? she's drop-dead gorgeous. she had an enormous capacity to love people, and people were drawn to her. there was a 17-year age difference, so she was the ultimate cougar. >> stephen worked sporadically at a variety of odd jobs, sometimes even at sea as commercial fisherman. eva was a thrice married and separated, former flight attendant. >> why do i keep thinking of the cindy lauper song "girls just

it was, like, the end of the year, end of 1967. it was the beginning--it was, like, i guess, the eve of 1968. and i remember it so well. the young lady that was at this party that he wanted me to meet--i couldn't drive. i--i didn't have a driving license during that time. he told me i should meet--i should meet this young lady. her name was lillian maus. and we met and talked and we hit it off very well. she was defending the civil rights movement, arguing on behalf of the movement. and she had on a very interesting dress. i will never forget it. and i don't think she really knew what the dress really meant. and it had all of the peace symbols i--in the--in the d--in the--in the dress. and from that day on, from that dinner party, we became friends and later we started dating and, before--in less than a year, we were married, and now we've been married almost 30 years. it'll be 30 years this year. c-span: where is this picture from right down here at the bottom? >> guest: this picture at the bottom was a picture taken at my house in atlanta with julian bond an

. >> i was in shock. i was -- i was just in shock. uldn't do anything. >> it was clear to police by the type of weapon, a tech .9, a pistol favored by career criminals and law enforcement, and by the accuracy of the hit, that the ambush was carefully planned. but by whom? >> this was not a domestic. this was not a botched robbery, this was an assassination. who would want the sheriff elect assassinated? >> brown had been preparing to shake things up at the jail, el assassinated? >> brown had been preparing to shake things up at the jail-elet assassinated? >> brown had been preparing to shake things up at the jail, secretly meeting with the district attorney swapping stories about corruption by outgoing sheriff, sidney dorsey. >> i just had dinner with derwin a week before he was murdered, and then to see him later in the morgue right before the autopsy started was one of those images i will never forget. >> the killing of derwin brown just made no sense at all. the only real enemy he had was sid dorsey. but it didn't make sense that do

it was purely much more suspicious than that. >> reporter: so before the night was over, chris hall wasand charged with the murder of his wife. the girls could stop waiting. he wasn't coming home. >> it was obviously a tragedy losing our mother that day. but this is a tragedy on top of a tragedy now. >> because knowing our parents wouldn't just -- >> the farthest thing from the truth. >> reporter: and one that has been infected by some diend of madness, said the girls. christi was the love of their father's life, after all, the center of everything for him. how could anyone so happy in his marriage and his life be accused of hafrming her? and she was happy, too, they said. as happy as she'd ever been. they knew it, they said, based on that mother/daughter talk they had. not long before she died. >> she just kept reiterating how happy she was. >> kind of odd. >> me and bree will always -- >> of course we didn't think much of it at that time, but that being the last time we actually saw her -- >> kind of burned into your memory now. >> yeah. >> reporter: but right or wrong, the legal trig

was he right? >> was he right? >> wasre a moment for you when you did something and you thought, my father was right? >> oh, yeah. there were times where i did not behave properly. there were times i was not respectful. there were times i was just out on a limb. but i did let him know it was really detrimental. >> you've been out with some of the most famous women in the world, allegedly. >> mm-hmm. >> madonna, naomi campbell, the list is long and illustrious. all it's cracked up to be? famous sex symbols? >> people are people. everyone on your list i did not go out with, by the way. >> really? don't disappoint me now, come on. >> you know if you're walking down the street with somebody and they get a picture and it comes out in the paper, then you're going out with them. but, yes, there have been -- there have been many and they have been wonderful experiences. >> you are 47 now. >> yes. >> i'm 46. >> you have to call me sir. >> you look about ten years younger than me. there are a few other things i'd like to call you a

was frustrated. he was feeling it. it was he threw the fax machine because he couldn't get some anti-anxiety medication. so we knew that he was feeling very anxious. >> but still no sign joel courtney was willing to reveal the location of brooke's body. the prosecutor was fed up. he was ready for a trial. >> if you go to trial at that point, can you win? >> yes. >> so you don't need to settle? >> no. >> the only reason to settle is to help the family, to get brooke's body? >> we were prepared to go to trial and to secure a conviction and to pursue the death penalty. >> still, the judge wasn't quite ready to move on. he asked both sides to try one last time to settle the case before trial. during weeks of tense talks with joel courtney's attorneys, the prosecutor finally discovered the one incentive that might appeal to courtney and give the wilbergers their daughter back. courtney wanted out of oregon. he might admit to murder and reveal the location of brooke's remains if he could serve his prison time near his own family, i

i was happy that i had finally gotten away from that. now it was stupid, it wasntless, and two people died for nothing. >> after he was incarcerated, brown reached out to his friend's mother, vicki. >> it was very scary to me. i was shocked, and i didn't understand how that could happen, and i guess i was selfish that i didn't want to just openly accept that phone call right away, but i'm grateful to him, yeah, i'm very grateful. >> i have led a very i don't know what kind of life you want to say, but i have done a lot of things in my life -- >> we all have. made mistakes. >> and so as i go through life, i just look at everybody and look at them as who they are instead of what they've done because if we look at each other for what we've done, we would never have relationships with anybody. >> he said to me you've always loved him and have been there for him. if he ever needed anybody, he would need you now. >> are you all right? >> yeah. >> he's a wonderful young man. >> you know, a lot of people would have a hard time understanding what you guys are doing. >> uh

was superb. >> that was in '68? >> yeah. >> now how did nixon choose? >> he was impressed by what he was doing in the united nations. he made some pretty fiery speeches and made one mistake when khruschchev came to the united states, the incident with disneyland and all. but he was -- nixon was impressed by what he was saying and doing in the united nations and felt that he had -- could help us in the northeast and so from the start that was the choice we were going to make. we had to give the impression we were listening to everybody so we had a meeting of probably about 25 or 30 leaders on the night after he got the nomination. we were in chicago and everybody had a chance to go all the way around the room and say who they were for. we made sure it was going to be for lodge. >> who was in the inner circle with nixon when that decision was really made? i mean there was this larger group who was giving input but who do you think nixon rely relied on in making these decisions? >> that kind of decision he probably relied on himself maybe. you know? don't really rec

was it love? >> what we learned was that he was having an affair with the son. >> was it money? >> nobody knows what really happened except for him and garrett. >> or was the truth hidden here on this tropical paradise? >> it was assassination. it was a hit, no question. >> "blind justice." >> thanks for joining us. i'm ann curry. for criminal investigators, it is often the hardest thing of all to find -- the motive. in the story you're about to see, the crime took place in florida, but detectives didn't discover an apparent motive until they dug around a tropical island thousands of miles away, something long buried that had nothing to do with treasure. here's keith morrison. >> it was august, hot in coral gables. the air was shirt-sticking thick as night fell. a small damp breeze pushed weakly at limp palm fronds. in the artificial cool of attorney john sutton's house, an intimate party was winding down early. it was susan sutton's birthday. attending, their son, his girlfriend and john's law partner. daughter melissa just off to college in north florida, couldn't be there. so

it was like america the beautiful. it was so rural. it was such a different world for me. the first sighting of my brother. he didn't know i was coming was at the packing house. i remember seeing him, millions of apples coming down the flumes. my brother was looking at every single piece of fruit to be sure it was shipped correctly. he was to tender. i was seeing him from a long shot. i thought oh my god, all he needs is a sweater, he'd look just like are mr. rogers. i began to realize i didn't get it. that was the beginning. then i began bombing him with questions about apples and fruit. there was one moment that did change things in my perception, which is we were walking one day, i worked the fields and packing house routine, 5:00 a.m. routine. we were walking at dawn with the pickers who were all working, my brother was walking ahead of me. i saw all the shades of green, i was able to get my own ego out of the way. i thought he is amazing. this brother of mine is amazing. he has built up something astonishing here. it was almost like he was no longer invisible to me. i

was working in baghdad. she was ambushed. her convoy was ambushed while she was leaving the iraqi headquarters in al qaeda. as a side note, recently there is an arrest warrant out for him. >> how did that first book go? >> i was so screwed up when i wrote that book. i wrote it as final love letter. i was angry. i was raw. it was about young love. it was about being in their relationship in your 20s and this strange time in this unique relationship where the person you are in love with decide to come over to baghdad and join you. >> you have since married? >> yes. i'm fortunate. >> where did you meet her? >> she had also been in iraq. her roommate in college was best is with my aunt and uncle. they said you have to meet her. she was working for the government. they introduced us in washington, d.c. it was years before we started seeing each other. >> how could you been married? >> you're putting me on the spot. i got married in may. >> is a hard for someone like your wife to go back and read this book about a woman that was killed? >> we do not really talk about it. my wife is an amazing woman. she understan

if ever there was a vision of hell or a glimpse into the apocalypse, that was it. and kurt was as i said just a kid from indianapolis, 21, 22-years-old when he saw this and i think it left him haunted. i had the impression when i was talking to him that there was always something going on in his mind. something that he was rehearsing for going over again and his children and nephew told me, too that he seemed like a haunted person. it's often said of depressive, people that are depressed they go over the same episodes in their mind again and again hoping for a different outcome, hoping for maybe they had done something differently. as i talked to him it seems he was only listening with one year within sight of his mind he was thinking about something that was completely preoccupied and was kind of a melancholy era about him. so she knew he had a great book to write out of this. he still wanted to be a writer and he had seen something really monumental, something disasters and the civilization and felt he could write about it. maybe it could be the thin red line from here to ete

was not burr's style. burr was reserved that there was a charisma. there was an intensity, and obvious intelligence but also about burr there was always a sense of mystery, sense of secret, and a sense of danger. which people reacted to very strongly. as a lawyer played in his life he used to instruct his colleagues, things written remained and he lived by that motto. he left very few written records. his elected correspondences to volumes. they are still working on madison up to about 50. he was a very different type of personality. 1804 bless aaron burr's very bad here. i want to apologize, meant to show you theodosia. this is theodosia burr his daughter. 1804 went very badly for burr and if number of ways. first he learned he was not going to be a candidate for vice president in 1804 election. jefferson had been dropped from the ticket. this couldn't have been a terrible surprise but it certainly was a disappointment. burr decided what he would do was rebuild his political fortunes, established his bona fides by running for government of new york.

was just, what? i was just shocked. >> what was wrong with the jury? what do they know what i don't know?don't knothat i don't know? how could they convict a man on what they had? >> i knew that the conviction was meant for me and for life without the possibility of parole. >> my sister was still dead. still didn't bring her back. but you had a little bit of faith in the justice system. >> in the hours following the verdict, it seemed everyone in coldwater was relying on faith. >> i said to myself, god isn't going to let me go to prison for the rest of my life. something had to turn around. >> then, less than 24 hours after the verdict, tom foley's defense team got a phone call from a woman. >> this is a woman who essentially says, i saw the murderer, and it wasn't tom foley. >>> coming up -- >> there's the killer right there. she saw him. >> a bombshell from out of the blue. was there hope for a newly convicted husband? when mystery at heath bar farm continues. we know a place where tossing and turning continues. where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. continues. and lunesta can h

think you're probably right emotionally and your experience you know and it was very clear from what was said beside what was said selfishly it was very clear that the countries involved including the united states welcomed regime change if you look at the interviews that president obama secretary clinton and so on secretary gates at the time gave it was very clear from the beginning that in a sense the coalition would not simply abide by nine hundred seventy three d. implications of one thousand nine hundred seventy three but that the regime change was very much part and parcel of this if i can collect of durga i could say with you wasn't that an abuse of the resolution resolution one hundred seventy three. well i think there are many people that argue that indeed what the coalition then they went far beyond demanded that nine hundred seventy three allowed for them and therefore i think your question about whether the responsibility to protect still can still work is indeed a very good one libya indeed was a very unique case and part because of the language that was used by the regime and so on and so it be

was going to be a rough day. and that he was going to be put to the test. >> reporter: that was the day she was killed. >> yes. tch." you could see that he was very angry and troubled. he wasn't in class that day. and he came to her later on the afternoon soaking wet and wreaking of aftershave. and he handed in his paper. and she felt like he was nervous at the time. >> reporter: all the signs pointing toward guilt. >> and then he was also at the scene when they were recovering her body. >> reporter: that very day? >> yes. >> reporter: one of the lookie lous, as they say. >> yes. >> reporter: which is often the case with somebody when they've killed somebody, they'll go back and look at the investigation. >> right. >> reporter: what did you think when you heard that? >> i thought this is it. you know? >> i remember instantly thinking bonnie had pepper spray. i wonder if she pepper sprayed him and that's why he had to mask it with cologne. >> it sounded very suspicious to us. right away, we're just talking about that and jumping on that. find the guy. >> reporter: but the dna eliminated him, too. or so the troop

tavis: she was not just a great writer or great humor list -- humorist. she was a woman. she was a trailblazer. tell me more. >> when she started out, right out of college, she started that "the houston chronicle." it was her first job. there is a photo of the whole newsroom and everything. the character says, "what is wrong with this picture?" that is right. it is all men. and it was. it was consistently all man. for many years, she was the only woman at that level of reporting. tavis: as a woman, and i suspect as more than just getting her story about, it was about empowering women. or am i reading too much into it? >> i do not know it's so much empowered women in particular. i think it is more in powering americans as citizens. i think one of the great losses in our time has been, like so many of the arts, it has been considered an unnecessary luxury or expense to have civics class is, to teach our kids their rights and responsibilities as a citizen of the united states, with a result, i think, that we have created a climate of almost victimization that we have. generations no

was then. it was 1992, she was 25 and it was unexpected, unanticipated like some bizarre lottery of life. yne was at a pay phone, in a washington, d.c., suburb. she just happened to lock eyes with a divorced art dealer named eduardo valseca. eduardo, who she would find out, was one of the nine children of jose garcia valseca, mexican newspaper baron who 50 years ago ruled a publishing empire. would be the equivalent in the united states of who? >> william randolph hearst. an article published in "newsweek" in 1950 said that he actually had a larger readership at that point in time than hearst did. >> that's when garcia valseca ran his papers from a luxury pullman train car, the one which decades later eduardo owned. though when he invited this beautiful woman he just met to mexico for a train ride, she had no idea that the train was his. >> we were walking toward it, and then this man comes out with a white jacket, white gloves, black bow tie with a silver tray. i mean, i was completely speechless. >> she soon discovered the train car was about all eduardo had of family fortune. the rest,

was in augusta playing golf. but this was dinner. you know. so he was in the phone booth talking to eisenhower and the maitre d's's phone rang again and it was kennedy. i picked it up. i got the feeling out of kennedy that he, too, felt the full impact that day because he just kind of wandered in the confers. he was very complimentary to me about i dressed better than pierre and all these little kind of things. just a very nice conversation. and that's when he told me about that -- when my speech was made is when he decided he'd won. but at any rate, so then we went back and by this time he'd talk to eisenhower and i had talked to kennedy and sew decided he definitely would do that. sew went back in his little phone booth in the pay phone and called kennedy. he was in palm beach at the family compound and kennedy -- kennedy said he would go up -- kennedy said, no, i can get a helicopter, i can come to key biscayne. so on monday he came to key biscayne and they met just the two of them in one of the suites at the key biscayne inn. that was when nixon tol

he was sort of half french because his father was french. he was a waste early dad who left his family in these circumstances but fremont grew up. he was brilliant. he went to the college of charleston. made wonderful grades except he was profligate and flunked out. he knew he would make good grades if he cared more. normally that would be the end of him but it wasn't because he fell in with one of the better topographical engineers of the united states army and learned the trade of topical engineering which was different. i had a little fling with engineering in the army. ideal with engineers. they do things we can't normally do and use to do with slide rules. in any case of west had been explored by a number of people. the indians who lived there, the old trappers had been out there for years and this was coming to an end because somebody discovered there were just as good as beaver pelts. it was right about this time that vermont was given the chore of exporting west of the mississippi river. these trappers knew where they were but the -- they w

was in. he was in a place he didn't want to be. he was far from people he wanted to be close to. he was not in his territory. that's how i felt writing by myself, far from home, not wanting to do it everyday from the time i got up to the time i got drunk but i did. and the second half was written all in a month. and it worked for this book. i can't say it might work for every other book it probably wouldn't work for any other book. i started this book in third person and thought for sure as a young man's voice in first person. i went in third person and i was 5 pages in and said, this doesn't sound right or read right, something's wrong. i went back because i learned from my first book, you have to think about voice and where it's coming from. i went back and put it in first person and realized it started to work. what i did was put it in the journal entries and it became what i should have known from the beginning because a began my colleges career as a film major wanting to make films not knowing i wanted to tell stories on the page and not on the screen. what i did was a steppe

but, in fact, it was far from certain that this alliance was actually going to happen. and once it did, it was a fragile and tense relationship from the moment of its birth. creating it and then keeping it alive was not an easy task to put it mildly. these three americans i mentioned played vital roles in bringing the partnership to life and then keeping it going. two of the three are very well known. and i'm going to tell you just a little tiny bit about them. the first is edwar r. murrow, who lived in pawling. the legendary cbs correspondent who became a household name in the united states when he reported from the rooftops of london during the blitz in the battle of britain. murrow was probably the best-known american correspondent during world war ii. the only other one who came close was ernie kyle. the ironic thing is that when murrow first came to london in 1937, he had not one day of journalistic experience to his credit. he was sent over to london as cbs' european director of talks, which meant that he was a booking agent. his job was to arrange things like speeches, debates, broadcas

was a holocaust survivor. everyone was lored by this man who could get up and sing this song when he was a survivor, everybody breaking out in tears and was amazing and the next piece i had to get up and sing. what an act to follow. i will go with the piece i was going to sing anyway. this is a gypsy song. [laughter]. free to love and -- [laughter]. i'm thinking this guy is going to walk out of the room and never like me ever again. he doesn't know me but he is going to hate me and remember me as the girl when totally ruinned the moment. [laughter]. i go and you will hear in a minute after this song and he's crying. he's like crying so much that i almost was going to stop but i didn't stop. at the end me got up and everyone was silent and he said, when i was in the concentration camp the only reason i survived is because a gypsy girl came and she would sneak me food in her apron everyday. and i was in love with her. that was the only way i got through. and he said that i looked just like her. [laughter]. worked out; right ? [laughter] think i look like this. [laughter]. and he was so inadd mirrorad with this w

was dirty. everything inside was snapped. they said the purse wasound next to the body and just the way it smelled, the way it looked, that that's what happened to whitney. and it was really hard. >> newell was making arrangements to fly back from mississippi. colleen's pastor offered to drive her to indiana. five hours away. >> when you got to the hospital, if this were a movie, the mother or the father would have walked in and said, i know she's gone, but take me to see my little girl. >> you know, i have a beautiful picture of whitney in my head. i want -- i didn't -- >> yes. >> i keep stuff in my head. i know that i couldn't -- i wanted a picture of whitney who was this beautiful, living, vibrant little girl instead of -- i would keep that picture in my head as opposed to, you know, a battered body. >> 50 miles away at parkview hospital, laura's parents and sister were steeling themselves, preparing to see her for the first time since she had been terribly injured in the crash. >> they had told us at that point, expect to see her in an altered s

was. her body was badly bruised, red, and he believed that she was dead. tation wagon. >> plemmons says he grabbed her feet and ken hansen grabbed her shoulders. as they carried the motionless body to the station wagon, hansen said he heard a moan. in their surprise they dropped the body. >> everybody stood around looking at each other and ken hansen pulled out a gun, two guns, a revolver and a sawed off shotgun and tossed the revolver to joe and pointed the shotgun at joe's chest. >> plemmons claims curt hansen ordered him to put holes in the blanket or there would be two of you in the station wagon. thinking plemmons was already dead, he fired a shot. hansen ordered him to shoot again. he fired a second shot. he dropped the gun as the others loaded the body into the station wagon. according to plemmons, the men drove the body to a steel mill in northwest indiana. >> he described being waved in. it was already prearranged. the workers in the steel mill knew they were coming. they just waved them right in. they drove right up and a big steel bucket was whee

jack was a devotional catholic who also was what he was. e was very complicated. >> host: let's talk about the woman for a minute. we may have to return to it but let's talk about the women during that era. men straight, women stray. there are statistics to try to purport, tell you how many into and blood but he was a serial betrayer. why would he do that? >> guest: as i said a few moments ago his wife tried to figure it out because she said his mother never loved him. sort of freudian trying to figure out his motherly love. i think she attributed the men were in those days. jackie was not only a woman of the madman period, early 60s and late 70s where men were in charge but she also grew up -- her close friend told me that she grew up in that old money world where after dinner the men would go to their own room and smoke cigars and talk about their girls. they kept the seekers from the women. in the women would often talk about whatever they talked about but they were always denied access to that secret world of the men. jackie said when he

shortage is there was a there was debate but was it healthy debate was it really changing anything what about the timing if it had been a year before or a six months later do you think it would've made any difference. on the one hand i don't think it would have made any crucial difference to the prospects of the communist party to reassert itself i think it's the world already over and simply. demonstrated that it had no future in society but one of the myths that has lingered with us is this idea that if only a more reformist course had been chosen and adopted that the u.s.s.r. could have been preserved in some way. perhaps under the leadership of the communist party i think. it's unlikely that that would have succeeded and even before the coup itself all these events the disintegration of the union accelerated nevertheless there was already a considerable hesitation of several states several republics to join the reform the union treaty so i think it would have been a slow but gradual dissolution and perhaps there wouldn't even have been as

was wonderful. ( laughs ) it was really wonderful. i arrived at concord academy a week before my 13th birthday. and i felt, here wasorld in which young women were taken really seriously. this ideology of what a woman was supposed to be, or a lady was supposed to be just seemed so much less present. >> susie: at concord, faust was elected student body president. then it was on to college. many men in her family attended princeton, but it wasn't an option for drew. princeton didn't admit women until 1969. instead, she went to bryn mawr, a prestigious women's college outside philadelphia, where she was again elected president of the student body and was active in the civil rights movement. you marched in selma, right? >> in the spring of my freshman year, the selma campaign was gaining momentum, and my then boyfriend and i said, "we have to go to selma. we just can't stand here and not speak out and not say, 'we care and this matters.'" >> susie: it was a very violent time. weren't you scared? >> i was scared. i was very scared. but somehow, when you're that age, you think you're immortal, slightly anyway. and i just

i was airborne and i was napalm. 50 caliber. somebody was in distress. i heard it on guard channel. so i was given a frequency. i was talking to a fellow on the ground. he was a member of the special forces guys who had infiltrated. and they had -- they recruited. these were chinese prisoners, criminals i suppose. but they were released from jail citizen in order to fight the viet. dedicated guys. they had dead and wounded. they needed a bit of help. i was -- we led down not know what was beneath us. wondering if you're going to run into something. but we broke out below. but we only have a few to work with. this guy was whispering in the microphone trying to find him was another task. what the timing might be. so we fooled around until he gave a heading and turned north. i finally managed to fly over his position and came back with the napalm. he wanted it right on his position. if that's what you want, we'll give it to you. that night i was in the squadron bar back at base. when some guy was at the door asking for me. my guy's reaching for the pistols because here's this guy in gre

she was only two years older than i was. she was not as socialize i was coming and she had epilepsy from an early age. so she was different, she was kind of the odd dhaka as they used to say. but very bright, spoke four languages, wind and lived on a kubbutz in israel. extraordinary, and then she had to come home because they found out she had epilepsy and said we can't care for you out here. she said well the medication is fine. all lot of ways she was the fiercest of all the siblings. she was a lot like my dad; she was a redhead, phyllis, spoke all languages, and intensely curious about the world. a fighter. c-span: one year did she die? >> guest: she died in 73. c-span: if you see a documentary of played major roles in their lives. brian >> guest: yes. c-span: how did you see it as one of her siblings? >> guest: well, it's a hard thing to say, but i think once she was dead and it was over and she was forgotten. i think my father's way of dealing with the world, if you can imagine your daughter dies at the same time as you're goin

headquarters which was on navy hill out of the state department and he was going to appropriate $1 million for it. it was a lot of money back then. the secret service, however, was horrified at the idea of strong take a wheelchair-bound president to navy hill every day to look at this audio-visual room. donovan planned on having new-fangled devices to show roosevelt was the war was overseas overseas. roosevelt wasn't part of the failures that donovan suffered and he seemed to realize that intelligence was -- donovan spent an awful lot of time cultivating roosevelt while he was in office and he had the agents look for stamps that he could collect and bring back to the white house for roosevelt's stamp collection. the glow, if you go to the roosevelt library, you'll see a replica of his office and there's a giant globe, and they were supplied by the oss. donovan would send memos to roosevelt in french and there were operations in france and roosevelt liked to practice his french. i don't think you would find too many presidents getting memos in french nowadays. donovan didn't want to get too close to roose

was not a rogue notion that the time. i felt it was highly important to make sure that there was no continuance of that. there were all kinds of evidence for his support for terrorist groups attacking israel, and he was involved in a number of these at destabilizing environments and actions. it struck me as a very good idea at the time. i thought that this was all right. and soon after, as we moved to nation-building, there came a time when it struck me that this was not going to work as i was learning about the islamic world. i am not certain what exact year. i need to find out when i actually started putting things together. it has taken a few years to realize that the notion of going to a country and remaking it in your own image is not a successful plan. and that is exactly what the strategy became. >> why did you think it was ok to go into iraq and not go after saudi arabia, who we actually sell weapons to, which you say undermines, worldwide, the western style of living. >> it probably made sense to go there in retrospect. it became very clear that this was one of the problems in iraq. and they are

was sort of dumb. he thought alexander hamilton was an presentable. that he was of four andhe w thought thomas jefferson was a coward. and his personal life he made unconventional choice is. he married doublemint 10 years older than he. not the custom at the time. he was a widow -- she was a widow of the british officer. that was controversial. he did pass a way of a tropical fever and he was inouye accountable for thaten but always in his life anf advocate of women's rights think you they rallies but equalof of men if not the superior in educated his daughter the way in a young man would be educated issuesghte often described as the best educated woman in america who could speak latin and could reverse comfortably with everyone.ft he was an avid lazy-- ladies' man. he did not remarry from 37wi through 77 they gave him 40fe years of bachelor good which he took the advantage of. when of his longtime friend said it is remarkable colonel burr achieved as much as he did resolve the time he spent pursuing women. it is very difficult to capture over the century the cha

was an enormous undertaking. there was a schoolteacher whose name was used. he was the -- kearny had two elements, less than the 1,000 square regimen of regular army. then they had their regimen of missouri volunteers who were granted on missouri mules, the finest in the world. but anyway, let's listen -- let me get my place here. the march of the army of the west as it entered upon the great perris presented a scene of most intense and throwing interest for about those planes seemed to unite with the heavens and the distant horizons. as far as vision could penetrate the day fluttering of their banners and the wagons of the version train glistens like banks of smell in the distance. they might be seen winding their torch's over the undulating surface of paris. that is a mouthful. i think if you can picture the scene no one had ever done this before. these people were going into almost beat and charge it unknown, and they became the first explorers and great heroes. one of these characters is a central figure in this book. a man who was a bastard from virginia