let ’s start now with the wagnergates . it happened exactly three years ago.l me please, now, what do you think? it was betrayal, it was a well-thought-out refusal to complete operations. was it something third, but from three years of experience, what could you say on this topic? well, if it could have been stupidity on zelensky's part, well they could use it in the dark but what difference does it make to me who in my leaders is a traitor or a do-do stupid it is at the expense of each other that is, it was uh in this was an act uh that undermined uh maybe undermined ukraine and in the eyes of the allies, because they understood that there are moles in the most important offices zelenskyi told me that he confessed to lukashenko. well, they just took it and talked about it like some bazaar woman a state secret, so it blew up the virus of the allies in us after that, of course. there it is. and it is not so possible to share information with us, and well, i think that the relationship was that uh-uh, the relationship is a little uh-uh superficial and how to say