we begged the saudis to stop setting up these conservative wahabi operations in parts of the middle east, in the balkans, in indonesia. again, they haven't listened. just take the example of kosovo. kosovo ten years ago would have never been a natural place that isis would have gone to recruit people into the fight inside syria, but today it's one of their hot beds of recruitment. it is not a coincidence that during that same period of time, the saudis and wahabhis spent millions of dollars trying to convert muslims to their brand of religion, a brand of religion that says -- that the crew sides never ended, that your obligation as a true muslim is to find a way to fight back against any brand of the religion that doesn't match ours. so for those of you that are going to vote for this arms sale, that are essentially going to endorse the current state of our relationship with saudi arabia and our gulf state allies just ask yourself if we can really defeat terrorism, if we remain silent on this brand of islam that feeds into extremism, how can you say you're serious about strangling isil w

the ideology, it is what some people call wahabi. let's break that down. i want to move into the grievances part. wahabi. this is when the british were arresting controls of arabia from the ottoman empire. you know, the ottoman entire had its great, illustrious history and then like all nations, fell apart. as they broke apart, the french, british, and the russians divided up the area. drew borders. so this foreign policy grievances that i think animates a lot of the discussion. again, i am not saying you are being a pacifist or whatever. islam has a rich military tradition. we did not come to power in spain, because we had good falafels. [laughter] mubin: no, no, no. we had ships with the perception of force. this is natural of empires, great civilizations that come. there is that political element. if you look at the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's, you had this real socialist movement. 30 years of a really oppressive dictatorship. what kind of functioning products can dictatorships produce from their societies? so when a look at those places where there are