it is, whether you call it solid is a more wahhabism, it is a very -- solophism over wahhabism, it is very conservative view. charlie: and a political force. >> the only people that can organize anything in the country, aside from the government, are the religious. charlie: as you may know, "60 minutes" did a piece about the 28 pages missing from the 9/11 commission report. it has never been declassified. ande is a real effort, former senator ben graham from florida has said that there is something in their and he would not be surprised if it shows some kind of support for those al qaeda kids who came here and did what they did on 9/11, that there was some kind of saudi support. they don't say government, but some kind of saudi support for them. can you tell me how the saudis view that, because i understand they are in favor of the release of the pages? >> the ambassador who was here for many years says release it. i don't personally understand why the government doesn't release it. bluffing,dis are just that is their problem. but both the bush administration and the obama administrat

what -- what has encouraged people to join isil, even the most extreme elements of wahhabism and what isil is -- laiming as what i think what they are proclaiming and what isil does, there is a difference. family's royal relationship with the religious establishment in saudi arabia, and, frankly, as they understand their role as the custodian of the two mosques at the center of islam -- -- they havead spread their view of islam around the world. there are those who make the argument that that has created the breeding ground for extremism. i think there is an important difference to be drawn between violent extremists who claim the religious -- charlie: radical, extreme islam. david: and a particular strain of islamic thought. charlie: the taliban seems to be on the march in afghanistan. they seem to beginning ground. they seem not willing to negotiate. what does that say to an intelligence officer? david: what we see with the taliban is, you know, particularly with the onset of the new fighting season, which has, the last several weeks, begun again. the talib and feels emboldened -- t

after oil, wahhabism is one of the kingdom's biggest exports. saudi clerics, entrusted with islam's holiest shrines, have immense power and billions of dollars to spread the faith. building mosques and religious schools all over the world that have become recruiting grounds for violent extremists. 9/11 commissioner john lehman says all of this comes across in the 28 pages. >> lehman: this is not going to be a smoking gun that is going to cause a huge furor. but it does give a very compact illustration of the kinds of things that went on that-- that would really help the american people to understand why, what, how, how is it that these people are springing up all over the world to go to jihad? >> roemer: look, the saudis have even said they're for declassifying it. we should declassify it. might it involve opening a bit a can of worms, or some snakes crawling out of there? yes. but i think we need a relationship with the saudis. where both countries are working together to fight against terrorism. and that's not always been the case. >> cbs mone

what has encouraged people to join i.s.i.l, even, you know, sort of the most extreme elements of wahhabism and what i.s.i.l is, you know, proclaiming and frankly what i.s.i.l does, i think there is a difference there. i think the saudi royal family's relationship with the religious establishment in saudi arabia and, frankly, as they understand their role as sort of the custodian of the two mosques, as the center of islam, they have spread their view of islam around the world. there are those who make the argument that has created the breeding ground for extremism. there is an important difference to be drawn between violent extremists who claim the mantle of religious -- >> rose: radical extreme islam. >> -- yeah, and a particular strain of islamic thought. >> rose: the taliban seem to be on the marchl in afghanistan. they seem to be gaining ground. they seem not willing to negotiate. what does that say to an intelligence person? >> what we see with the taliban, particularly with the onset of the new fighting season, which is in the last several weeks begun again, is we see a taliban that

the saudis wahhabism is a fanatical cult itself but the terror it has unleashed is coming back to bitee world. there is no good ending here. martha: ralph, thank you very much. good stuff. see you next time. bill: jon scott coming up next on "happening now." good stay to you. good morning. >> good morning, bill. all eyes turn to the primaries next week in five suddenly important states, connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania and rhode island voters all head to the polls. we have new poll numbers. plus chris wallace, karl rove, larry sabato for analysis where the race stands right now. fascinating morning ahead. we'll see you top of the hour. bill: thank you, jon. ten minutes away. a new form of technology that could change the way we communicate in a way that's never been done before. bill: take a look at gloves. the gloves on the screen can translate sign language into speech. two university of washington students created them. here is small example how it works. >> my name is thomas and this is navid. we are inventtores in the mit student prize. competition. bill: nice. chris

this globalized wahhabism destroyed much of the diversity within islam. snubbing out the religion in favor of an intolerant one. in the 1980s, as the war against afghanistan against the soviet union turned into a religious conflict doctrines of jihad flourished. in many cases islamic fundamentalism turned into islamic terrorism. in the years that followed 9/11, after much defensiveness and denials, the saudis began to reverse course, shutting down government funding for islamic extremist movements, retired u.s. general david petraeus once told me that the most significant strategic shift during his time in uniform was that saudi arabia went from being a tacit supporter to an aggressive foe of jihadi groups. today saudi intelligence is a major ally in fighting al qaeda, isis, and its ilk and yet saudi funding of islamic extremism has not ended and it's pernicious effects can be seen from pakistan to indonesia. the funds now come from individuals, not the government, still it is hard to imagine that the absolutist monarchy of saudi arabia cannot turn off th

the roots of isil, there's no way of denying that part of those roots run through the export of wahhabism long as the saudi monarchy is inud power, no one predicts a breakup any time soon. for the pbs newshour, i'me margaret warner. >> sreenivasan: global leaders will gather at the u.n. tomorror to sign a landmark agreement aimed at limiting climate change, and it's happening not coincidentally on earth day. but many observers say those actions will not be enough. in washington state, there's a battle over taking a big step, o and whether to approve the first tax on carbon in the u.s.ar newshour economics correspondent paul solman has the story, parta of his weekly reporting, "making sense," which airs here on thursdays. >> you might be an economist if you don't read human interest stories because they don't interest you. >> reporter: at seattle's museum of flight a couple weeks ago, the annual climate night event. headlining: yoram bauman, the world's first and only standup economist. >> you might be an economist if you've ever gone into a bank or other financial institution in the hopes

the role, in general, that saudi arabia has played and the royal family has played in supporting wahhabism which is the extreme right-wing islamic movement which is part of what isis and al qaeda are about. >> and finally, senator, on friday, you released last year's tax returns. secretary clinton has posted her tax returns from the past eight years. so will you do the same? >> we will post more of them, yes, we will. i don't have -- to be honest with you, our tax returns showed us that we made more money -- we made less money in a given year than secretary clinton made in one speech. we don't have a bunch of -- jane and i don't have a bunch of accountants working for us. we will get it out. i think we have all that information, and we will get them out as soon as we can. >> by when? >> which will be very soon. we got out one. we'll get out more. >> like this week? >> probably. >> okay. senator, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. good to talk to you. >> thank you, dana. >>> and coming up, there are 95 republican delegates at stake on tuesday when new york votes. could trump sw

keep being saudi arabia's little secrets about the spread of wahhabism and going to spread light on todayhe terrorism threats now experiencing. so they don't want it to all come back to saudi arabia. but we need to get the 28 pages out there before we can ever really fully assess our current threats and how we go forward. so it's about protecting saudi arabia. >> you talk about current threats. i mean, at the end of the day, say it goes through. investigation, evidence is exposed. you have your day in court. at the end of the day, is this about money? >> no. absolutely not. not money to me, anyway. about taking the money out of the terrorists' hands and stopping the flow of money continuing to flow out of the middle east. these organizations cannot operate without money. they can't do the communications. they can't bomb making materials. >> what about money saudi arabia said they would sell in u.s. assets? >> as far as i know and things that i have read, economyists said that's absolutely impossible for them to do. "forbes" did an article online saying the same thing. sell it at a discoun

host: the new york times is about this debate, according to is axpert, wahhabism bedrock of saudi societyd the kingdom is never likely to abandon it. mark in ohio. go ahead. caller: good morning. how can theis, congressman be flying all over the world in regards to foreign policy when he was elected by the constituents of the ninth district in charlotte. what is he doing for them when he is all over the world? host: we're running out of time so i will have the congressman respond. guest: thank you, mark. i serve on the financial services committee. the financial services committee is one that is important for my region. i am not all over all the world of the time. there are cases where i do go and take strategic trips. you will find out that my voters recognize that i work hard for my region, particularly in the areas trying to reduce the burden of regulatory environment today that is crushing small banks. we have not discussed that, that wasn't the topic today. they wanted to talk about terrorism. but much of my time is spent on financial services committees addressing this regulatory is

in the sunni-arab world today, al-qaeda, obviously, isis, ago nusra, they all have their roots in wahhabismthe saudis have been brilliant. over decades, generations really, they've bribed their way into the american scene very deeply, you know? key corporations and individuals make profits here. they spread money around, they buy into think tanks. and as a result, they've had their way. so now they're throwing this tantrum because they don't want the 28 missing pages from the 9/11 report released, they don't want individual survivors and family members to be able to sue and, please, just one more point here on this, the saudis are now threaten, as you know, to sell $750 billion of u.s. investments. let them. let them do it, because it would briefly dent our equities, it would cripple the saudi, already-hurting saudi economy. and by the way, time for revenge on the 1970s oil embargoes. we should embargo saudi oil, including third party swaps and subsidize american fracking operations until oil hits $50 a barrel. national security. stuart: all right. ralph is off and running, and he feels it.