steve jobs is exactly that that era that you talked about the late nineteenth century you read on walden pond and. i mean it's been forty years since i read it but. i remember thinking at the time throw had to be the world's most eloquent interviewer and arguably emerson and i suppose walt whitman although he thought he did like to you know travel around the insurers. are were those the the kind of speakers of their time who exemplified introversion as a cultural value or character as a cultural. yeah you know they were some of them i think arguably lincoln might have been that kind of a person who was actually praised i think it was emerson as as a man who did not offend by superiority and he had a very modest. presentation which was prized at the time but also you know even if you go across the pond to the romantic poets of great britain you also saw this kind of. celebration of the solitary thinker the solitary figure he felt things deeply these things were prized at that time and we've we've lost sight of that more recently. the one thing it's here you know when you talk about welfare i m

[laughter] garrison himself rejected walden pond. he said there were a lot of a lot of good axioms then that, but the structure was weak and he suggested making it into a calendar. [laughter] i rejected the waste land by eliot. i did 18 tavener chorus and the last couple as i know this is a blow, tom. not to worry. you're still the greatest poet from missouri. [laughter] how faint that raises. the other poet from missouri is me. and sometimes i save it t.s. eliot and i are at the missouri school of poetry. [laughter] we do have differences. i'm from kansas city, which during my entire childhood was known as the gateway to the west. and he was from st. louis, which cut the government to build a big gateway arch and started calling itself the gateway to the west. i didn't really blame them. and for that they were not as mound citycamorra service to to depression, mound of work? so you can't blame them really, although we don't agree it is the gateway to the west. we think of st. louis is the exit from the east. [laughter] there's some