walid phares and zuhdi jasser president for center for democracy. did the president come across as apologist for radical islamist terrorism? >> i don't think he was apologizing for the radicals but certainly apologizing for the house of islam. and he's marginalizing the reformers. he opened his speech talking about the fascisms that we destroyed in world war ii. the communism we overcame in the cold war, and then i was waiting for the islamism to be mentioned and talked about the tactic of violent extremism. i'm sorry, but the president takes the american public for fools in somehow we're going to take on a tactic without the ideology, and if he wants to engage reformers, we have to acknowledge that our allies want to reform against theocracy against the muslim world that creates movements like isis. lou: president sisi of egypt al-sisi, walid stood up and called for the reform of islam. he is running a government effectively he's still confronted by extraordinary economic disaster in the country that he now leads. why is there not a clear statement

joining me on the phone is fox news and analyst walid ferris.d walid, you say this is a game changer, why >> because the brutal killing by burning of a prisoner of war, the lieutenant, means that the norms of war do not apply. usually you don't kill prisoners or in front of a camera and you don't burn them. jordan, the other arab sunni moderate looks at this as a breach of international law. they have to change the strategy. and that's why i presume it will be a game changer. beyond that, it is going to be a serious notice that isis can use brutal methods. >> i am struck by the news. we are talking about the 70th liberation of the anniversary of a uswtitz. and yet there was a hesitancy to get involved in that part of the world in world war ii and here, we have something that shoes in one light a burning to death that the world can see. and the people who are doing it don't face that much. what is the solution here? >> if we don't up our game and if the international community doesn't up the game against isis this will be the new normal. they hav

walid phares. what are we doing now walid? we are turning isis and making sure they are not gaining new territory. is it work something >> no. it is working in every mission is successful and every mission contacted by the military and air forces hitting targets on the ground. but what is not working is the strategy in kobani or eastern syria and kurdish and christian minorities. hundreds of syrians are taken by isis and god knows what they will do with them. >> what do we do about that? >> i have heard from ngo's representing the christians and also from the kurds at lost in syria, they have launched many demands with the administration regarding obtaining weapons. we hear the administration saying we are training people and sending weapons. but these men are telling us that they are not receiving anything. are they not giving them support? >> we could be leaving them vulnerable to the clutches of isis? >> if we don't supply them with weapons and training and make sure that the air strikes are surrounding the the area the sam

walid survived, but his wife and seventh-month-old daughter didn't.minutes after he left the house government aircraft targeted the neighborhood. it sustained an intense air campaign in response to a rebel attack on central damascus. >> on in a day my wife would stay at home. she took my daughter, i went to my sister next to us. i left them there. i came back, and the house was destroyed. >> some people in the opposition did question whether causing civilian casualties in damascus had any military or political benefit. walid is not one of them. he blames the government for targeting civilians. despite losing his family and his moment walid believes the struggle should continue j. >> the u.s. and cuba have held a second round of negotiations on restoring relations. roslind jordan has the latest from washington. >> the lead negotiators in the u.s.-cuba normalization talks said on friday that they felt the second round of talks had gone well, but there is a major sticking point. the cubs want to be remove from the u.s. state sponsor terrorism list becaus

martha: walid, thank you very much. good to have you with us today. walid phares.with our affiliate in phoenix, arizona. certainly they have been very close to the story, just northwest of mean -- phoenix in her hometown of prescott, arizona. when we get more information from the american southwest including more reaction from friends and family that knew her and grew up with her. back in a moment. kayla mueller, dead in syria, age 26. bill: as we wait more information out of arizona washington, d.c. and syria, david webb, host of the david webb radio show, siriusxm patriot and columnist on "the hill." leslie marshall, syndicated talk show host. both our guests. kayla mueller 26. she is dead in syria david, it rots your heart. >> it does, bill. walid phares made a very important point. i will say it even more bluntly of the americans and people around the world need to pay attention what is going on in radical muslim controlled areas no aid worker especially a woman should go to these countries. when you're dead, you're not going to be able to help the people that

like walid just said this is a game changer. that execution in the way it was done, the knowledge of who that pilot was and isis moved forward and executed him in this manner says we are ready for this fight. they have come to a man that is now ready to give it to them. >> do you think president obama is going to give it to him, give him whatever he wants. >> i don't think he will give him whatever he wants. with a king like king abdullah who has for generations made more out of limited resources he will do a lot with whatever we give him. >> if president obama doesn't give him what he asks for tonight, then what? >> like the representative had said japan lost some people, you know money buys tools. and if they need money if jordan needs money jordan, every two years has special operations conference where all the arms manufacturers come there and it's a basically an exposition of all those tools that you need to fight this war. so he has the ability to get them if he needs that money if we don't give it to him directly, somebod

we are not doing our job. >> and interesting walid. what about going on in europe.it could highlight france. terrorist struck there and inspired by isis. it doesn't matter if they were affiliated. he four people in the kosher market and a terror attack in copenhagen as well. and there are those in a 60 minutes the report said the terrorist in europe are hybrid terrorist and petty criminals and psychological. fell in the hand fdz islamist persuading them to the dark side. what do you think of that argument in europe? >> that is the academic elite on both sides of the atlantic. trying to flee reality. unstable people are recruited. they are not seeing they are only come after the size of isis are very big. the planners and the bulk of isis are made of stable people. but the unstable people are a side dish of the war on terror. >> great to have you in the program. >> old man winter really tightening his grip. much of the u.s. is struggling to get above freezing. when will the bitter cold go away. >> and hackers stealing up to a billion dollars from banks in several cou

--d walid phares. it appears that republicans have upper hand, democrats could pay a huge political price republicans are now insists that the dhs funding bill wipe out president's amnesty fiat for illegal immigration, they passed legislation to that effect, senate democrats are refuses to act on the bill, democratic op tibbs not helped by president's unilateral act. allowing illegal imtkpwrafpbs immigrant to collect welfare and an opportunity to vote, and newer report that hillary clinton a 2016 bid for white house may be -- we'll have a full report, and analysis by fox news political analyst, we begin with middle east. where islamic state is not the only threat to region. president obama success story yemen on verge of civil war with forces loyal to their ousted president. joining us now. former pentagon tomorrow kt mcfarland. fox news analyst waly will ly willlywalid fair farris.>> it is already gone. if they talk about pro iranian militia have been able to reach southern area, closing to indian oce

walid farris. did the president come across as an apologist for radical islamists, for radical islamist terrorism? >> i don't think he was apologizing for the radicals but he was certainly apologizing for the house of islam. what he's doing is marginalizing the reformers. it's interesting, he opened his speech by talking about the fascisms that we destroyed in world war ii the communism we overcame in the worldcold war. then he talked about the tactic of violent extremism. i'm sorry but the president either takes the american public for fools and that somehow we will take on a tactic without taking on the ideology and if he really wants to engage reformers, then we have to acknowledge that our allies are those who want to reform against theocracy across the muslim world that creates movements like isis. >> the president of egypt stood up and called for the reform of islam. he is running a government he is still confronted by extraordinary economic -- an economic disaster in the country that he now

>> i have a great respect for walid. i think people are going to rally behind jordan on this. i think this is an opportunity to unite some of these middle eastern countries that maybe haven't been united. but the only country -- and i say this with a great deal of respect for our country because it is a great position to be in -- ours is the only country that can unite people on this mission. it doesn't mean we need the bulk of ground troops but it means we need the moral leadership to bring these countries together. i think this may be a turning point because it shows the deathly, evil brutality of this thought process and it's time to be crushed. >> congressman, you know the area and this is a pilot that died bombing and i know resonates because you're a pilot yourself. as you look at that region and see jordan is on the cusp, that 1,800 jordanians decided to go with isis and there's a lot of syrians who have gone into jordan for solace, peace and maybe terror ambitions i'm wondering how do you fight this? looking where isis is, where jordan is maybe a motivated saudi arabia

walid phares is with us.joining us. >> sure, sure. >> i want to talk more about the swedish cartoonist that was the target he believes of the shooting and he was in the cafe at the time. his name is lars vilkes. and i understand in 2007 a l- baghdadi offered a 100,000 reward for his murder? >> well, yes, it was at the time al-qaeda faction and he was targeted and there was a reward on his head and that it never stopped. in the chat rooms and various statements made by jihadi organizations around the world. he was a target because of what he did in their view. what happened in paris, not only jihadi individuals that target him. but possibly individuals may have been selected by a command that isis has in europe that wants the cartoonist to be killed and to claim it and they will number the future at those activities. >> the population of copenhagen, will be 1.2 million approximately and 8000 jewish people in denmark and can most live in copenhagen and the surroundings. and the second shooting happen in the mai

syrian foreign minister walid al morlam says his country will never allow anyone to infringe upon itsovereignty. and he says the government does not need foreign ground troops to fight the militants. he blamed islamic state for killing a jordanian air force pilot but he criticized jordan for carrying out air strikes on syrian soil. observers say members of the assad administration are worried attacks by foreign forces might help rebels who are fighting to topple the president. >>> it's time now for the latest in business news. finance leaders from the group of 20 nations are having a high-stakes meeting in istanbul turkey. ai uchida joins us now from our business desk with the latest. ai tell us what's on the agenda for this meet pg. >> catherine, g20 delegates, they've flown in from around the world and they bring with them a pretty long list of things they need to talk about. they're addressing tensions in the eurozone slumping oil prices, monetary easing by central banks, even rising extremism. the delegates say they'll monitor the effects of monetary easing in europe and asian cou

walid phares said it is striking. >> hundreds of miles away from syria and iraq, you have jihaddist wearinge uniform and the black execution uniform and the same way to display the victims and the slaughter. all of that is telling me it is a rise of a international organized jihaddist group. >> reporter: fox is told that a dozen isis operatives travelled from syria and iraq to libya and some have taken on a leadership role in that country, jenna. >> catherine thank you very much. >> in afghanistan, 20 people are dead after a taliban homicide bombers dressed as police officers attacked a police station 50 miles from kabul. one bomber detonated the explosion at the gate. and officials say the disguised bombers ran in to it the dining hall where officers had gathered for lunch. local officials call canned it the latest assault on security forces that have been in control since u.s. forces finished the cam bat mission last year. >> and over in ukraine. teetering over the edge of the fighting. the ukraine government calling on eu and nato to condemn the refbles. both sides are to begin pulling t

. >> dawood walid is concerned that the conference could insight hate. >> there have been a number of attacks here on american soil. do you think this could add fuel to the fire? >> i strongly believe that any framework that is bolstering the current perception that american muslims are somehow a threat to the american way of life is putting american muslims in potential risk or potential harm. >> am i more aware? yes. but i refuse to fear going out to where i need to go. >> delta airlines is investigating hider's accusations. she says she's not looking for money but wants the company to make changes to ensure that would happen to her and her family doesn't happen to anyone else. bisi onile-ere, al jazeera detroit. >> political history was made in oregon today. kate brown was sworn in as that state's governor. she takes over from john kitzhaber. she says restoring public trust she will also enact reforms. she also identifies herself as bisexual making her the only bisexual in u.s. history. (f) nicole mitchell joins us with the weather. >> almost eastern third eastern half of the count

walid is not one of them. he blames the government for targeting civilians. he still believes that the struggle should continue. al jazeera bay lieutenant. >> northern iraq's minority groups have been systematically persecuted, killed and driven from their homes by isil over the last nine months. tension focused on the plight of the i can'tcy did i minority in iwhyiyazidis were abducted. many were forced from their homes in mosul after isil took over. many were told to leave mosul or be executed. with me now is mark latimer with rights international. thank you for being with us here on al jazeera. these are sobering figures and in talafar where 90% of turk men had to leave. what do you think the long-term affect of the region is going to be if this goesen. >> isil has pursueed a systemic strategy of expelling all minorities from a large sway from northern western iraq, and also in northern syria. we fear that affect is going to be permanent. communities like some of those you mentioned yazidis, turk men, some of them have lived in that part of iraq for up to

walid farris said this on that point. >> this is genocide l in nature.re threatening to kill more and more of these in libya and possibly inside egyptian. we're seeing a kind of jihadi genocidal action like we've never seen before. >> charles is right and that gentleman is quite right. ronald reagan thought the ethos of the 1970s involvement semantic disarmament. that we were no longer able to talk crisply about what was going on. so he remoralized the cold war by saying it was an evil empire and the focus of evil in the modern world. people were horrified but he did it deliberately in order to say clarity matters here. >> charles, what about -- you talked about the stakes for europe. obviously stakes for the middle east are enormous the entire world. think about libya four years ago, the arab spring and then the u.s. leading the coalition, working with the coalition at least to dig out gadhafi. and now you see this terror spreading to the beaches of libya. isis is expanding beyond iraq and syria. >> speaking of language, we have to stop using the phrase

this accusation was then followed up by walid ben attash who is accused of training the 9/11 hijackersafghanistan. what's key here, greta is that the defense attorneys in the case say this is all part of a troubling pattern where they believe the government is entrying on some level with the prosecution. they rattle off a whole host of examples they allege they found listening devices in the attorney client. there have been data breaches on their computers. they also allege there within a an effort by the fbi to plant an informant on one of the defense teams. they say this is all an effort by one of the intelligence agencies they believe to keep everything secret about the treatment of the five 9/11 conspirators when they were in cia custody. the thing is when you ask the prosecution if there is any evidence to support that or if they know anything about it they also say they are in the dark here and just as a final point president said is he determined to close the detention camps here at guantanamo bay. if there someone thing the defense and prosecution agree on in the 9/11 case, the

walid ferris joins us now. king abdullah has taken quick action. >> jordan's king and his government cannot respond. equation in the region is this. if he would have not responded this is in the beginning in my expanding and isis would have done more. there is another act, the issue here we cannot be clear yet. there are about 1800 jordanians who are part of isis. they're deployed in syria and iraq. those returning to jordan will wreck havoc. jordanians under a full fled mobile mobilezation. these acts are a signal jordan is going to resist. this follows what happens in egypt. >> we're out of time for the moment. we have the breaking news tonight that two terrorists have been put to death in response to the horrible burning of a jordanian pilot i'm eric shawn we'll cover this throughout the night. are you still getting heartburn flare-ups? time for a new routine. try nexium® 24hr. the latest choice for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection. if a denture were to be put under a micr

walid faris is a fox news analyst. good to have you here this morning. welcome.n you look at this video it'sing a long video that shows the savage burning of this pilot. but the whole intro duck section lays out the united states and its muslim partners in the war against isis. lots of images of the jordanian soldiers the u.s. soldiers, the flags of both countries all of this interwoven to make the case against jordan. how do you think this event changed that dynamic if at all? >> many people have been discussing the issue of of a turning point. some say it is happening, others say it's not happening. what is a turning point? you have a large segment of arab sunni arab society in cairo, egypt, and saudi who are turning against the jihad its. who did the king of jordan execute this morning or a few hours ago not members of isis, these are members of al qaeda. it's a turning point against the jihadjihadists. >> it's our understanding the coalition partners have been trying to find these groups to hit them where they can. but it doesn't seem to be working. >> we hav

bill: walid phares, welcome back. do you buy the excuse of poverty? >> that's a 20-year-old explanation produced on campuses here in the united states and in western europe. it's wrong. if you take a million persons frustrated in the middle east. why is it 1,000 among them become jihadists? why not the other 900,000? there is no direct link between frustration and becoming a terrorist. theling is if they are indoctrinated who become terrorists. bill: why then and what explains why the administration would cling to this explanation? who would be behind that. what would be behind that, do you believe? >> all administrations since the end of the cold war have been influenced by a defective advice coming from academia and campuses. evening has to do with the economy, correct but they missed the fact there is an ideological link. more important to me is the influence and pressure coming from what i call the islamist lobby, the pro iranian lobby who have no interest in having the united states fighting the war of ideas. what happened to them will happen in