>> the walid shoebat foundation is the ffmu. >> what does ffmu?sically we're in information and we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it end up biting. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves to his manager keith davies who was down the hall selling shoebat's anti-islam books. when cnn had specific questions about the business, like perhaps the names of the high-ranking generals and experts he says are on his board of advisors, well, shoebat said get the names from davies. >> walid said that you would be able to tell us about your advisory board. you guys said you have generals and other high-ranking officials? >> correct. >> can you tell us who they are? >> off the top of my head, yes. let me see. i'm trying

in the neighborhood walid shoebat grew up relatives say he was a regular kid. s fourth cousin goes even further. >> translator: there were only two banks in bethlehem district, lumie and discount bank. walid never had any connection with those two banks. not a close or a distant connection. i tell you, this is out of experience. i am one of the people who are considered a responsible man in the area of bethlehem or beth sahur. i have never heard anything about walid being an mujahid or a terrorist. he claims this for his own personal reasons. >> drew, he's saying he claimed this for his own personal reasons. what personal reasons? >> reporter: there's a big personal reason here, called money. classic investigative reporting you follow the money, like his background how walid shoebat is now making that money is about as mysterious as his past. >> yeah. thewoman shoebat the walid shoebat foundation is that a charity? >> it's part of the ffmu. >> what does the ffmu? >> we are for information and we do speaking and we help christians that are being persecuted in cou

walid shoebat foundation, is that a charity?of the ffmu. >> what does ffmu do? >> basically we're in information and we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we -- we hem those who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> reporter: and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> none of your business? that's interesting. investigation continues tomorrow night. what are we going to see tomorrow? >> reporter: tomorrow how he makes a business out of his expertise. how these donation toss his cause end up with a so-called foundation owned by his business partner. and also the bigger question, anderson, why are our taxpayers going to pay this guy? he can say whatever he wants, but where are the people vetting these so-called terrorism experts that are suddenly making a lot of money in this country? >> that's interesting. drew, fascinating. we'll continue to follow up. we'll have that report part two tomorrow. >>> coming up, you may not have been following

walid shoebat was played a five hundred sixty thousand dollars in two thousand and nine to train counterterrorism officials and sure bob isn't a terrorism expert he's a right wing islamophobia was compared is long to naziism so we should tap phone lines at mosques declare that islamic organizations are america's number one enemy and a wind that islam and terrorism are inseparable yes this is the guy training our police officers now in light of the norway attacks in which we can all see firsthand the violence that is long a phobia can cause the muslim public affairs council's pushing back against phony experts like they released a statement saying she about has turned his viewing of a speech into a career that will train for police officers and first responders from poisonous individuals is not an effective method of training and will not properly equip them to keep our nation safe so how do we put an end with only experts spreading hate joining me now to talk about this issue is all one hundred would tell government policy analyst of the muslim public affairs council i wonder welcome back glad to

. >> walid shoebat says he's the perfect person to warn americans about terrorisms.a little too perfect. >> no historian can deny that islamists basically invaded christiandom. >> walid shoebat has an advertised pedigree that makes him an expert. islamic terrorist turned ultraconservative christian. a u.s. citizen because his mother is american, he is a darling on the terror circuit, the church and university circuits and yes, he believes the war on terror is a holy war. he portrays himself as a man converted and on a mission. once a jew-hating, bomb-throwing terrorist, now a devout christian convert, warning the world, islam is out to destroy you. that's how you recite the koran. i know the koran inside and out. if you believe the unbelievers, then smite off their necks. what part of smite off their necks do your americans don't understand? >> reporter: his message before a larnlly positive crowd of cops and emergency responders at this security conference, trust no muslim, especially those who organize. >> know your enemy. know your enemy. all islamist organization