someone for access to the lobby so that they can put a water station when they're having a walk walk-a-thon. i'm looking for anything of value that impacts a nonprofit organization, so i'm not looking at the spurs, i'm not looking at the ballet; i'm just looking at how it impacts community service organizations. under this proposal, anything of value to them may mean less of a water station right in front of your storefront because we don't have any money to pay. >> chair keane. >> commissioner chiu. >> so i think, commissioner lee, if i can answer your question, if there's an elected or appointed official who is wanting to make the request for a water station at, you know, along the walk-athon, and is making the request on behalf of a nonprofit for which their family member is either serving as a director or a -- what else -- director, officer, or trustee or is an owner or if they are an authorized representative or agency, then, that would be prohibited. but if there's no relationship between the elected -- he selected/appoint selecte -- elected/appointed, if there's no relationship betwe

, you know, using another example that folks brought up, if you're a non-profit, trying to do a walk-a-thon, one of your staff or your board members happens to be on the city commission, if you need to use a business for a water station, that is anything of value. that's prohibited. that's going to hurt the non-profit, the community service, bottom line, in terms of their financial and service progra programs. so i still believe that this is too broad, and no matter what language is going to put in, you're expecting people to be reasonable. and i feel if we were to put this on a ballot, we need to be really specific. and if there's not an opportunity to put a monetary value on that, my proposal is to delete the whole section because there's already language to really address the potential conflicts of interest without hurting inadvertently the folks that are really in need of a publi public-private partnership that we'll need to rely on for the next few years. so i would like to make a proposal to amend this by deleting section a. was it section a? it addressed the meaning of value, that wh