. >> there is chatter, rubio/walker or walker/rubio ticket.ing is they would ca compliment each other, one from florida and one from wisconsin. they are the same age. and the rubio folks don't like the chatter too much because often times it's walker/rubio rather than the other way around, and interesting, in new hampshire over the weekend, for the first time from an actual activist, not an operative but an activist, i heard somebody throw up the idea of the walker/rubio race make it's way. >>> a lot of republicans are surprised mike huckabee seems so serious about running again. as he inches closer to joining the gop field, he says there are two big pluses now. he says he can raise a lot more money than in 2008, and the calendar should be more favorable to a pastor turned politician. and the new nominating calendar, some of the pieces are not yet locked in. but what worries the establishment most is the likelihood of the so-called sec look, alabama, arkansas, georgia, mississippi, tennessee and texas and louisiana would vote, and conservative

mary: jeb, rand, rubio cruz and walker. there is 5. that's why we will balance the budget. e curiosity factor, the all other thing mrs. clinton doesn't have, curiosity. first rubio, walker, people know jeb. philosophically pure people are looking at cruz and rand. this will be so much fun for you. you will have 15 books. >> the things democrats are looking for is -- some of them they are counting of historic nature of her candidacy the potential of her being the first female president. do you put any stock in that? mary: being the first only works the first time. we have already done that. we want confidence and record and go to the future. we want the first competent president in a long time. >> give us the first 2 words you think of when you hear it. mary: breathless at the matalin home. [laughter] >> that was fantastic. thank you. after the break, though phone call from hillary clinton. and lisa goes head to head. ♪ mark: we have two guests tonight, lisa caputo, for first lady hillary clinton, and patty solis doyle. ladies, thank you for joining us. lisa, we will start wi

bush walker, rubio cruz, and paul. they will be the 2016 heroes which would make guys like chris christie or ben carson mike huckabee, not heroes well maybe a spinoff movie. but how fast, quick and abrupt is

with if ratings of these candidates, still relatively unknown, carson walker, rubio, are the only ones positive ratings. so it is less you know the better but that is not the case with hillary clinton. >> unlike the nbc commercials that used to say the more you know? that's the problem though, the more people know, will they like them or will they not? the danger having that many names in the political field they will be shooting inside of the tent. that will happen pretty quickly. it is a race to get name i.d. out there. marco rubio will announce in a couple weeks. that is likely number to tick up. it is in the single digits but likely go up after that. jeb bush has the best name i.d. with his last name. that is part of the reason he is doing so well but it is too early to tell. >> the best name i.d. overall might be donald trump. he is only talking about it. if you look at trump i was also looking at carly fiorina, very low numbers in this poll. trump 3%. carly fiorina only one percent. >> carly fiorina hasn't had a successful political campaign yet. she has interesting ideas. >> a l

going to do is probably get to that place jeb bush ties clinton in head-to-head match up, and walker rubio and rand paul are within margin of error. lou: thank you. a tennessee police officer tonight, a hero. with a dramatic dangerous action he took to prevent tragedy officer cliff thompson learned there was a speeding driver going the wrong way on a highway in brentwood police rammed his cruiser head on to stop the car thompson and the driver were treated for minor injuries, charges again the driver are pending, thank you to all who salute tonight officer cliff thompson. >> up next, indiana lawmakers following governor mike pence by backing away from that new freedom law the a-team takes it up. congratulations. you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark

bush walker, rubio cruz, and paul. betting they will be the 2016 heroes which would make guys like chris christie or ben carson mike huckabee, not heroes well maybe a spinoff movie. but how fast, quick and abrupt is that? all right up impressive but they are very rich, they are placing their bets that one of them is going to emerge as the nominee. what if it's not? >> if it's not then they hedge their bet on the wrong guy. you have to remember koch brothers are just like you know good old americans here. they really want the candidate to make a compelling case so they can pick someone to win. they had a lot of strategy. people are tired. so are koch brothers, tired of presidential losers, they want to get behind a potential weather, i am sure each candidate state their case, and given a winning strategy, how they are going to win this. that is what propelled the koch brothers to put cash behind it. lou: i don't neil: i don't know them as well as you do, do they look at polls, they are in and out of top 5 they said all

so i've seen them all perform and i'd say walker and rubio have the best stuff. n be uneven. christie is trying to be so low to overcompensate for being too high. he's muddled. so i'd say walker and rubio so far are the stars. >> somehow hillary's windup? >> she's a monopoly. she has no competition, so she's not that great. >> so talk about the road to character. why did you write it? >> i occasionally come across people who are just wonderful. and i was in frederick, maryland, people volunteering to help immigrants anded we walked edwe walked in and they're good and patient and true and not bragging about themselves, not thinking about themselves. and i've achieved more than i ever thought i would in a career sense, but i thought that i don't have. i don't have that kind of inner goodness. and i don't know if i can get it. but i'd at least like to know how you do get it. and so the book is a collection of character stories about people who really built themselves from disasters to being really good. >> and you talk about dwight eisenhower in the book. >> yeah. so

it's going to be a walker/rubio ticket. the nomination nomination, this is a play for marco to be his vice president. >> why do you still prefer walker? you like walker over anyone else? >> because i think he's the rising star with the executive management skills. and he's the most trained athlete on the track -- >> what about chris christie? >> i don't dislike governor christie. but governor christie is not the right guy. this is like surfing. that wave for governor christie was a 2012 wave. it hit the beach when he was standing there with barack obama in 2012. i sort of think it's over -- >> you're still bitter and angry? >> i'm not bitter. but like a good italian, i haven't forgotten. >> but you still stick by walker. you think he's going to put it all together? >> i do. he's got the right skill set. he's got the executive management skills. he's the one in the race that's most recently worked with the legislature. he is a blue state politician. he's a conservative that's winning in blue states. rubio is impressive but wh

it is fairly clear, jeb bush marco rubio scott walker have much clearer path to nomination than other people do. ted cruz and rand paul people are excited they stand on principle. while they absolutely have a chance, their path to the nomination and presidency a lot less clear than it is for walker rubio and bush. gerri: i think one of the big questions, will the person with the most cash win? as it stands right now, senator, obviously jeb bush is doing very very well. is it always the money that talks in these elections? >> no, it's not. people -- >> if you look -- >> i think people kind of overstate that. gerri: i will come back to you. >> thank you. if you look at the way that the primary is rolling out, new hampshire where i live is actually the, obviously first-in-the-nation, is not a caucus state like iowa. and it is really, you have to go door-to-door. you have to be in people's living rooms and in their businesses. not only about cash. rand has certainly taken a stand-up there. scott walker has. jeb has only been up there i believe once in the last 10 years, give or take. so t

going to do is probably get to that place jeb bush ties clinton in head-to-head match up, and walker rubiowithin margin of error. lou: thank you. a tennessee police officer tonight, a hero. with a dramatic dangerous action he took to prevent tragedy officer cliff thompson learned there was a speeding driver going the wrong way on a highway in brentwood police rammed his cruiser head on to stop the car thompson and the driver were treated for minor injuries, charges again the driver are pending, thank you to all who salute tonight officer cliff thompson. >> up next, indiana lawmakers following governor mike pence by backing away from that new freedom law the a-team takes it up. gemu green -- joining us next. people wanna know, why has my high efficiency washer been saying 7 more minutes for 25 minutes? the problem may not be with your machine but with your he detergent. all he detergents are not created equally. look. this detergent says it's made for high efficiency washers, but look at all these suds that your machine needs to rinse! that means more time. fact is the wrong detergent can a

cruz 25, rubio 15, walker 15 carson 15, bush 10. huckabee 10. wine women and song $10. you are corrupting young people. >> absolutely. he should not be watching me. >> back to the 401(k). i'm going to skip the democratic casino because it's usually the same. who knows? maybe next week it will be a different bet. but let's do winners and losers jason? >> the winner this week is science. another large scale study found no connection between vaccinations for measles and mumps and increased rates of autism. the winner this week is science. and the loser? >> um-huh. >> the loser this week is harry reid and the democrats. i say that because the new senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has gotten the senate functioning again. it's passing legislation medicare fixes. human trafficking bills. it shows that the problem all along was leadership, i think. >> kirsten winners and losers. >> marco rubio. he is at the top of the polls and poised to be a fresh candidate in this race. and then democrats for having only one candidate and really having all their eggs in one basket i thin

this time around those are super paks and mega toners including bush walker rubio cruz and paul. for now they are the first tier in the polls and in the money, bret. >>> former cia director david petraeus was sentenced this afternoon to two years probation and a $100,000 fine for leaking classified documents to his biographer and mist tress. the sentence followed petraeus' agreement to plead guilty to a misdemeanor count. outside the charlotte court petraeus apologized. >> today marks the end of a two and a half year ordeal that resulted from mistakes that i made. as ski is it in the past i apologize to those closest to me and to many others including those with whom i was privileged to serve in government and in the military over the years. >> the judge said petraeus committed a grave but very uncharacteristic error in judgment. >>> mixed news in the housing market today, sales of new homes plummeted about 11.5% in march while existing home sales were up. modest fwans on the markets today, the dow finished ahead 20 the s&p 500 rose 5, the nasdaq closed up 21 at a record high. >>

this time around those are super paks and mega toners including bush walker rubio cruz and paul. for now they are the first tier in the polls and in the money, bret. >>> former cia director david petraeus was sentenced this afternoon to two years probation and a $100,000 fine for leaking classified documents to his biographer and mist tress. the sentence followed petraeus' agreement to plead guilty to a misdemeanor count. outside the charlotte court petraeus apologized. >> today marks the end of a two and a half year ordeal that resulted from mistakes that i made. as ski is it in the past i apologize to those closest to me and to many others including those with whom i was privileged to serve in government and in the military over the years. >> the judge said petraeus committed a grave but very uncharacteristic error in judgment. >>> mixed news in the housing market today, sales of new homes plummeted about 11.5% in march while existing home sales were up. modest fwans on the markets today, the dow finished ahead 20 the s&p 500 rose 5, the nasdaq closed up 21 at a record high. >>

christie cruz jind the, walker rubio.uote stale are biden, bush huckabee clinton, and santorum. how does hillary clinton deal with this fresh issue? >> the terms expiration date and stale and too late for you as a woman, it's like i don't know if men have the same reaction. that's nuclear. it's like you're telling us we've expired. i think that's problematic. and i think that actually bill de blasio who was on the show, he showed that anything can happen. he had been around. politics anything can happen. it's stale if you continue to be stale. there's no reason why things can't get mixed up. >> you didn't like the test at all. >> but this is different. hillary is like the cornea transplant you didn't know you had. she's been in your vision since 1990. the tammy wynette interview was in 1992. she's been there since then. that's not about a sell-by date. >> but here's what that also means. there's a whole slew of americans who are going to vote for the first time for her who never had to vote for bill clinton. that could be

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walker and rubio are really shaping up to be the only two who have a chance to block jeb bush in his to the nomination. with all of that money all of those resources, the cloak of inevitability is what jeb bush is putting on to be not resisted his message is not that that hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars or billion dollars eventually spent doesn't mean he's going to win the nomination but prevent you from getting nomination. after you catch the state he'll meet you in big expensive states and burn you down. >> burn you your house down i love that about politics. who says you need bucks to win an election we were just talking about this? well former governor jeb bush telling donors over the weekend you don't need a billion bucks to run a presidential campaign that is in sharp contrast to the 2.5 dollars that hillary campaign said they want to spends. john is back with me also joined by matt welch editor and chief of the magazine this show is called money and this presidential campaign seems to be all about money. let's start with jeb bush double it you don't need a billion

mark: can rubio beat bush and walker or does he have to be the last man standing if they have problems go after them and take them down? jonathan: i think it is possible, but he would need to help. mark: for you -- jonathan: you will have nine or 10 candidates at least on stage and they will be going after a common target. mark: i'm using the metaphor of roller derby. they're all going to try to hit bush. where is rubio vulnerable? if people decide he is a threat, where is his greatest vulnerability? jonathan: i think on substance it is the immigration issue. on style, it is the question about we have already tried barack obama once, we will not try it again. basically, painting him as a republican answer to barack obama. young, non-white, a really good speaker, someone who is talking about generational change but did not have the kind of governing experience to back it up. the rubio folks will argue a different scenario -- he was the speaker of the florida house has done more policy innovations than obama. mark: it has been announced that rubio will do an interview after his event on

>> senator rubio or walker or bush half to reach of lovell of clarity and consistency. [laughter] bush -- good to see a. a great day for investors on wall street. as caliber in the aids the way. the nasdaq close just below 5,000 in volume on the big board listen to my records three times a day on the salem radio network. the heisman trophy winner has said new home in the nfl. citing the national champion to a one-year deal today's just-in-time to enjoy the off-season workouts. coach kelly has remained silent cal he will use them on his offense but not the single sports writer saw this coming but kelly just keeps winning of football press. congratulations to the university of south carolina equestrian team to take then a championship trophy. to the conference champions in a row. and then defending national champion competing in waco texas the two teams fought to the finish but no pulling back from south carolina. fresno state up sets the bulldogs the national champions take on the trophy. the team pores of water over the head three-time national champ head coach. congrat

walker. marco rubio. i think jeb bush will have a message. think he understands he can't just be the third bush. rand paul has a message. i don't think it will be a winning message, but he has one. that's really a challenge, i think. >> one final question for each of you. who is the most promising republican candidate not in the race yet? >> oh, gosh, not in the race yet? almost none of them are in the race yet. i suppose jeb bush, he does the best in the polls. he hasn't announced anything. so i give him as my answer. >> i go back to mitt romney. i mean, look. you don't like old faces, but you know what, he ran a good game last time. >> i can't figure out why not john thune hasn't looked at this more carefully. >> if they nominate hillary clinton, i'm going with dick cheney. he has a much better record. >> god help us all. >> i'm going with john kasich. back this man is best friends with three presidential candidates. so how will he decide? senator mike lee and his new book, "our lost constitution," is next. >>> i'm mike lee and i'm running

john: if you look at jeb bush, scott walker, marco rubio, those are establishment -- welker is playing both sides. bush and rubio are going to be establishment candidate and put a lot of ships in new hampshire. if you are one of these other guys running into any establishment bracket, iowa becomes important. you have to put a win on the board somewhere. iowa is the better opening for ted cruz my cut could become up rick santorum. they have some built-in advantages. there's going to be a big scrub trying to get out through that to chock a win up in the hawkeye state. charlie: we've had two announcements. ted cruz and rand paul. what is most impressive so far? john: there are two different kind of announcements. cruz's announcement was powerful rhetorically. he gave a great speech. the crowd was there by force. they were students who did not come to that event. the enthusiasm level was lower. he is great on stage. with paul it is harder to george -- to judge. it was a more enthusiastic room. he is not a great orator. when it came to his oratorical athleticism, his ability to command this

maybe marco rubio is in part because of his age and some of the folks in the walker world are saying want marco rubio, which makes sense because republicans need florida to win in a general election and i'm not sure that scott walker would translate well enough into florida's demographics, it's a little different, it's let's white, so to speak, than wisconsin zblis wisconsin. >> what are you working on for? >> my story for tomorrow to get some sleep. >> put me in on that byline too. clearly the whole florida issue. >> yeah, we're going to see this for the next what 18 19 months. not only do we have four potential presidential candidates an the republican side, in the general election, the florida is the biggest, most important swing state. if republicans lose florida they don't win the white house unless they do magic in the midwest. >> thanks. >>> and one of the issues should it be a hot talking point in the leadup to 2016 is gay rightsen hillary clinton is a supporter of same-sex marriage a position different from the one she held when running for president eight years ago. clinton

a walker/rubio ticket, who will be on the top into would be on the bottom? thanks a lot. now this. prosecutors have arrested the captain and crew member of the but the capsized in the mediterranean 27 people were rescued out of 900 passengers hoping to reach europe from north africa. ashley webster is here with us. this is absolutely -- ashley: this is going on on a daily basis this is the worst incident we have seen of this type in the mediterranean ever. certainly more than 800 people believed dead. hard to get accurate numbers, the united nations calling it a humanitarian crisis. what is the e.u. going to do? they have been criticized, scaled back on search and rescue missions though they have an emergency summit in brussels and "after the bell" point plan, so euros zone, we have a summit and come up with a plan. they are trying to get to the smugglers themselves to by the way charge on average between $111,600 per person to get on the boat so it is within their interests to pack as many people as they can on these boats and make as much money and what happens? disaster. the sin

such a critical role in the nominating process, they are cheering on candidates like scott walker and marco rubioho are perceived as a bit more conservative than bush on several portman issues -- on several important issues. laura: how do she win them this time? guest: when you get to the late states in the primary process she became a very tough candidate to beat. in some ways that is the playbook. it made herself successful where she showed detail policy knowledge in a setting of every day americans. she reverses the flow of that first campaign and thinks about what she did in the primary states. she will be very tough to beat. laura: thank you for joining us. the nominees from around the world. washington has raised concerns over its decision to lift a band on delivery. it was introduced in 2010 in compliance to u.s. sanctions. a deal on curbing iran's nuclear activity is finalized by the end of june. international sections will be lifted. a federal judge in the u.s. has rejected a deal -- reject an appeal. convicted of involvement of a massacre in iraq, all former members of the u.s. military

rubio. and for the nonestablishment it's scot walker with marco rubio straddling both things and i think scottalker in the lead and we have to sort out the two primaries first early in the year and then probably one against the other. and that will be the real contest. >> right now you talk about jeb bush as the presumptive front-runner but the polls don't show that. let's take a look at what dan balls in "the washington post" says today. the former florida governor is still the biggest name in the gop field with the fund raising network unmatched by any of the others but bush's considerable assets have done little to reshape the early polls or keep other contenders out of the race. if anything that's the opposite. why would that be and can bush reclaim the official lead or doesn't it matter this early in the race? >> he is a good candidate and shows that in the past in florida. in the end, you don't have to win a majority of the republican primary voters. that's how we got john mccain in 2008 with a third of the republicans supporting him. mitt romney never got a majority of republicans to su

rubio which is basically statistically tied. and then the quinnipiac poll which shows in the battleground states that she's walker, paul and rubio, paul leads her in iowa and pennsylvania, bush leads her in florida. and quinnipiac says it's not one or two candidates every republican is running tighter against her. this race is tightening very, very much. >> can you speak to that, leslie? when marc mentioned the charm factor i thought it was interesting the other day greg gutfeld called her utterly charmless. we played that sound bite going to break. watch this. watch. >> along life's way you get a chance to make millions of decisions. some of them are big like do you run for office? >> i mean is that like -- she's no bill clinton. >> oh no. she's not. and to be fair he's not running she is. and, you know, i don't want to be identified by my husband. and i'm sure she doesn't. but i have to say i do -- you know i've met her in person and i'm sure a number of people are watching have as well. she comes off very different in person. there's a warmth about her that we don't see with the media, which she seems to be uncomfortable with

bush, rubio, walker and cruz i think have a will be particularly strong in doing the nuts and bolts researchf what it be done to find out about your opposition. the florida thing is interesting because the bush people are obviously well wired and order. if they're going to have to take out rubio, they're going to have to use their context to dig into his time as speaker and his time with the state carter. >> bush, bush, bush bush, i say. if you look at the people on that team, people like tim miller, who came directly out of the opposition world very talented people in communications and research and had chops and this in past campaigns -- as you said money is key. what is interesting about this race is those guys are working with the leadership act -- pac, or many of them are. it is interesting to see the way finances will work. not just adds as they were in 2012, but that oppo will be driven out of his committees. mark: everybody seemed to think mike murphy would go to the pac. where did you put your best opposition researcher? at the campaign or at a super-pac devoted to going after the p

i think right now you still have a top tier of bush, walker and rubio pending john kasich maybe racef jeb bush falters at all and if he has to fight for in nomination you've got up to ten people who could be the nominee and speaker said we never had a situation like this. >> john heilemann, jeb bush says he knows he has to fight for this. >> he has to fight for it but the most amazing thing is the conventional wisdom if you talk for other republican potential or current candidates is they all say the same thing to you and believe this and say, i don't know who jeb bush's voters are in the republican party. i don't know who is for him. now apart from the donor class we can't find the constituents in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina that will be for him and that creates the perception there is no risk in going after him. if he doesn't have any voters out there why not me. >> good for democrats or bad. >> good for democrats. we saw that in 2012 because, you know, when you're in the primary season and you're trying to rally the so-called faithful and go so far to the right that you pe

i think that's why marco rubio and scott walker are both strong candidates because they can play withstablishment and grass roots and kind of a problem for kasich and bush. they don't play on the other side as well as they play strictly -- >> final question for the speaker. you said right at the top you could have 25 candidates in the end. we're about, you know, what, the first will be next january. how is the field going to sort itself out? >> the american people will sort it out with remarkable speed once it starts, but as david broder once reminded us, all of us will talk from now until the first iowa caucus and nothing will have happened. we will all have to fill the space and then the american people start to work and i suspect by april we'll have a pretty clear nominee. >> okay. mr. speaker, thank you all very much. >>> and now our powerhouse puzzler. at the white house correspondents' dinner last night, cecily strong became the fourth female comedian to perform. the first one was more than 20 years ago so here's the question, can you name the first female comedian to perform so

rubio is perhaps one of the most underrated republican candidates in the field. a lot of folks i talk with say if someone like former governor bush or governor scott walker perhaps ils, senator rubio is someone who could clearly rise to the top. he comes from a more centrist wing of the republican party. he's straddled the line of bringing together tea party members and the more established members. he's someone to watch. >> thanks so much for your input. >> have a great weekend. >> and just ahead jimmy fallon is calling it the best tonight show performance yet. >> madonna lets loose. you're going to want to see this performance so don't go anywhere. up at night. know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease. know that planning for retirement can be the least of your worries. with the guidance of a pnc investments financial advisor, know you can get help staying on track for the future you've always wanted. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com your mom's got yo

walker? >> marco rubio. >> you think rubio -- >> oh! >> this is what i like.e have three guys and still wanted the four. with a ticket in iowa, he's still in the race. he's the only guy i know that can win both. it would only take 25%, if there's four people in the race. >> anyway, the roundtable is going to stay with us. >>> up next, president obama says hillary clinton will do just fine if she just is her wonderful self. that's a far cry than the line he threw at her last time. this is "hardball," the place for politics. you get used to stale odors in your mudroom. you think it smells fine, but your guests smell this... febreze air effects works instantly to eliminate odors you've gone noseblind to. smells like a field of awesome in here. so you and your guests can breathe happy. it's back. the philly cheesesteak pizza. get our philly cheesesteak pizza. with original philly cheesesteak company steak and garlic parmesan sauce. a large for just $12. better ingredients. better pizza. papajohns.com >>> pope francis continues to get pretty good reviews from ameri

ted cruz leading the way, scott walker, marco rubio, they know that in iowa, it's evangelicals and ethanol. those are the two things you have to win out there. rick santorum proves you don't need any money, not even a viable path to the white house to win in iowa. if you win in iowa and you have a little bit of money coming out of there, then that's your ticket. and so cruz and walker and the other folks, they're all in with pence with the unreconstructed pence here to say look, republican activists, i'm your guy, i'm going to support religious liberty at this moment. >> fascinating. the dynamics are so different than the national dynamics and discussion. it's very important to see it that way. thanks a lot tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> it's very easy to look at those guys and say it's going to be an incredible political detriment to them. they don't care the way the rest of the country feels because most of the country doesn't vote. they're counting on the people who do care about this issue in a right wing way and in favor of what mike pence did in the first place, they're co

marco rubio, scott walker, jeb bush, who will finally get it? the winner gets a billion-dollar war check. be thenner-up gets to bachelor on the next season of "the bachelor." but seriously. a billion dollars. from just two guys. is it just me, or does that delay little excessive. it is almost insulting to the candidate. the koch brothers think they need to spend a billion dollars to get people to like one of these people. that has got to hurt their feelings a little bit. look, i know i have raised a lot of money, but in all famous -- but in all fairness [inaudible] [laughter] [laughter] the trail has not been easy for my fellow democrats either. know, hillary's e-mail has gotten her into trouble. frankly, i thought it would be her instagram. [laughter] things off by going completely unrecognized at a temple lay. outdone, martin o'malley went completely unrecognized at a martin o'malley campaign event. [applause] and bernie sanders might run. i like bernie. he is an interesting guy. apparently, some people would really like to see a cut smoking s

walker? >> marco rubio. >> you think rubio -- >> oh! >> this is what i like.ee guys and still wanted the four. with a ticket in iowa he's still in the race. he's the only guy i know that can win both. it would only take 25%, if there's four people in the race. >> anyway the roundtable is going to stay with us. >>> up next president obama says hillary clinton will do just fine if she just is her wonderful self. that's a far cry than the line he threw at her last time. this is "hardball," the place for politics. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here. >>> pope francis continues to get pretty good reviews from americans accordin

scott walker, marco rubio will be up there, jeb bush will be up there. there are question marks.will be sticking around for a while. rand paul will definitely be up there as well. i think we will probably end up when it comes times to the debates around seven people as opposed to the 29 million there now. >> did you mention marco rubio? what do you think? >> i did. there's a poll out there, a somewhat iffy poll to show him tied with jeb in florida and jeb made this big thing about calling homeland security trying to hold down florida in the primaries and the general election. and if rubio is running close to him there, that's a problem. again, the poll has the question marks, but it's a good sign that marco rubio can land fairly big in this. >> okay. we'll talk about the big trade deal that president obama talked about yesterday. he scored but there are a lot of democrats against it. so what is driving the divide here? what are the key reasons the president is for it and some of the key reasons fellow democrats are against? >> sure there's the trade pact itself, the france parter