that included some of the wallace voters, although they went for wallace, but working-class, primarily white americans in the south and the north, all over the country, middle-class suburbanites. the idea that the cities were out of control, that campuses were out of control, that these really a front to a fundamental american values, he tapped into that strain and as well the strategy was that on the left, he could be in the center right. he had wallace far to his right or to his right. he had the democrats including some of the democratic primary candidates who made a part of the coalition, who were antiwar on his left, and that he could alm,al as a center rightc confident candidate as he argued, he put it, though it turned out to not be true, but he could bring the country together. steve: the democrats and the liberal politics, our focus is on the republicans now and conservative politics, available on our website at the span.org. david in san jose on the line. caller: my question has to do with bobby kennedy, and the historic tremendous view he had with lyndon johnson. when he had

that included some of the wallace voters. working-class, primarily white americans, in the south and north, all over the country. middle-class suburbanites. the idea, too, that the cities were out of control. that the campuses were out of control. that these were hot beds, and a front, to fundamental american values. i think he tapped into that. and, as well, the strategy was that on the left, he could be kind of center-right. he had wallace far to his right. to his right, he had the democrats. including democratic primary candidates, who made up the coalition, who were antiwar. he could appeal, as a center- right, confident candidate, who he argued, as he put it, though this turned out to not be true, that he could bring the country together. >> the last thing we focus on is democrats and liberal politics. this week our focus is republicans and conservative politics. all of it is available on our website, c-span.org. >> good morning. my question has to do with bobby kennedy. the tremendous feud that he had with lyndon johnso

and that included some of the wallace voters, although they obviously -- a lot of them went for wallace, but, you know, working class primarily white americans in the south, in the north, all over the country, middle class, suburban iets. the idea, too, that the cities were out of control, that campuses were out of control, that these were really kind of hot beds of really a fronts to fundamental american values. i think he really tapped into that strain and as well the strategy was that, you know, on the left he could be kind of in the center right. he had wallace, you know, far to his right or to his right, he had the democrats including some of the democratic primary candidates who made up part of the coalition, who were anti-war on his left and that he could appeal as this center right calm, confident candidate who as he argued, as he put it, although this turned out obviously not to be true, that he could bring the country together. >> last week we focused on the democrats and the liberal politics, this week our focus is on the republicans and conservative politics and all of it av

trump and wallace were very different people with very very different personal histories, but wallace's campaign, just like trumps, appealed to this populace interest in this mission of the people versus the powerful, that these experts, these pointy-headed people who got us into this mess in vietnam, and tell us these things are good for us, will they don't know better, they don't know best. why do all of these college professors and washington bureaucrats know what is what? we should not have these people messing in our lives. so, wallace of course is a southerner. he was a former governor of alabama. he first ran for alabama governor in 1958 and lost. he ran as a racial moderate. he learned his lesson from that loss that he needed to be much more about the preservation of segregation. in 1962 he ran again for alabama governor and one, and become a violent, vocal, and national prominent defender -- defender of segregation. in rising to national prominence, he was not just speaking to alabama citizens who were concerned about how state rights were being infringed upon, about how local

so darwin and wallace debated this until darwin's death in 1883, darwin never gave an inch but wallace lived until the basically the dawn of world war i and so wallace turns out had a predominant impact on -- on evolutionary biology and here we see in a book published in 1889 by wallace called darwinism, he wrote even in rejecting that phase of sexual selection depending on female choice, i insist upon the greater efficacy of selection and therefore i claim in my book advocate of pure darwinism. now, here it's been 130-plus years later and i'm still pissed. and i hope that you will be too. what has happened is we have been denied both as a science and as a culture the actual richness of darwin's own views and complexity, right, and what we see in this -- in this -- in this quote is the birth of adaptationism, adaptation by natural selection is strong force that dominates tall important features in evolutionary biology, this is the same aspect of one scientist trying to explain a way something that somebody else works on, right, and here is the i insist on the greater efficacy of natura

george wallace enters february 8th. president johnson wins the new hampshire primary but narrowly against eugene mccarthy. and then senator robert f. kennedy. and two weeks later, president johnson stunning the nation announcing he will not seek reelection. and then two weeks later, dr. martin luther king, jr. assassinated in member 'tis, tennessee. and then hubert humphrey announcing he is enter. and then robert f. kennedy assassinated. richard nixon accepting the nomination in august of that year. late another august, hubert humphrey accepting the democratic nomination in chicago amidst the riots. richard nixon is electioned president on november 5th, 1968. we want to welcome barbara perry was the director of presidential studies of the university of virginia's miller center and then pat buchanan who was worked on the campaign of richard nixon. where were you that? >> i was in richard nixon's campaign. we were having an argument. nixon was moving towards a more doggish position when we got word from cbs that lyndon jo

george wallace, the governor of anbama who was running on openly segregationist campaign. but not just in the beach south where he was favored in several states. wallace was running in the north as well, trying to poach on a lot of traditional labor votes that would normally go to the democratic candidate. that would be assumed to to go to the democratic candidate for you wallace was a threat to nixon in the south and humphrey in the north. mr. masket: talk about the platform -- host: talk about the platform. guest: there was a peace plank supported by the mccarthy and kennedy forces. a the way, the last minute senator from north dakota joined the race for governor and tried to rally some of the kennedy followers on antiwar platforms. but the party establishment certainly with the support of the white house, they managed to prevail over the antiwar forces. drama, it is hard to beat. it is the most tumultuous convention in modern times. what it led to is fascinating -- the commission, in the wake of the loss that a series of reforms or past to diversify -- were base, to div

george wallace gets the south. and even though this looks like a very red map, it was not as close as one might think. yes, nixon gets an electoral majority. but you do have, and there's a question about how much you know, who wallace took votes away from. probably a few more than nixon. but even at this moment this high-water mark of liberalism, an election, a year that had started off all about the vietnam war. all about resistance to the establishment. then ends up electing a former vice president, two-term vice president, a republican, someone who campaigns on conservative, law-and-order messages. and rejects some of the more, this year of incredible sort of radical possibilities, why did it turn out this way? well i think that it becomes more explainable when we think about the 1960s as a broader revolt against established institutions. a revolt against established institutions who continues to contour or politics today. where people both on the right and on the left. revolt on the right and the left. it was a

anyway, she is hilariously funny, and mike wallace loved her. so when mike wallace, years later, found out that governor reagan had married edie's daughter, he was all excited about that. and so then the next step was when the reagans went to the white house, mike called chris wallace, who was just a nuby nuby and they introduced nancy and chris but mike wallace could do no harm, and when she was doing -- i think a six six sucks -- a "60 minutes" piece with him and i could hardly bring. i know he can go in for the kill. >> a newsman. and its in for most. >> yes, and chris is exactly the same way. but they -- they sometimes got mad at each other, but they always ended up being friends again. >> sheila, one thing we talked about and others have say it, too that whose who were privileged enough to work with her and for her over the years, came to in the real nancy reagan, and the white house staff, they loved her to death, and we loved her to death, and now there may be days we weren't as fond of her as other days. but we did love her. can you tell

the manger -- major challenger is george wallace. george wallace is someone who has gotten a lot of attention in part because he is -- was a strongly popular voice as a candidate in 1968 and afterward, and had messaging about personal freedom ahead of anti- elite message that is very reminiscent of the message that donald trump used so effectively on his son in 2016. trump and wallace are very different people with very different personal histories. but, wallace's campaign, just like trump, appeal to this popular interest and this notion of the people versus the powerful, that these experts, these pointing had people that got us into this mess in vietnam, and tell us all of these good -- things are good for us, they don't know what is best. how do all of these college professors and washington bureaucrats know what is what? we should not have all of these people missing in our why -- lives. wallace is a seven or -- southerner. he first ran for alabama governor in 1968 and lost. he had ran at the racial moderate, and he learned his le

>> oh, george wallace, what colorful character. pat and i were talking before the show today, and he said he used to go speak with him. so we want pat to way in, but he was a populist, eventually, segregationist. so he was not in his earlier life in alabama, but he was a world war ii veteran. we look back now and realize he may have suffered from some ptsd from his service in the war. he was a pugilistic kind of fighter. and by the late' 50s, when he lost a race in 1958, i will not use the "n" word, but he said he would not be out-n'd by someone else. so he came against the anti-civil rights view and brings that into the 1968 campaign, not to think that he was going to win. he knew he probably wouldn't carry any states outside of the south. as pat said, he carried five of them. but thought he could be the broker if there was not a electoral majority for one of the two major candidates. >> or he could put it in the house, right? here's the thing, wallace had come out in '64 and he had run in the democratic primaries and he had done

wallace was a threat to nixon in the south and a threat to humphrey in the north. democratiche convention in chicago, you talked about the fractured nature. talk about the platform. what were the issues? guest: the overwhelming issue was be a non-. there was a huge debate that came to a head, and basically there was an antiwar plank supported by the mccarthy and kennedy forces. at the last minute, a senator from south coda named george mcgovern got into the race -- south dakota named george mcgovern got into the race on an antiwar platform. but the party establishment, what used to be called the machine, with the support of the white house, managed by a margin of three-to to prevail over the antiwar forces. it was certainly, if you like drama, it is hard to beat. it is a most tumultuous convention in modern times. ways, led to, in a lot of what it led to his fascinating -- a reform reform commission, the fraser-mcgovern commission, in the wake of the loss that year, and much of the blame was placed on the convention, a series of reforms were passed to diversify the

w mike wallace could do no harm. i could hardly breathe because i know as much as he likes her i know he could go in for the kill. he is a news man first and foremost. they sometimes got mad at each other but they always ended up being friends again. >> one of the things you and i have talked about, those of us that were privileged enough to work with and for her over the years came to know the real nancy reagan. there may be days we were not as fond of her as other days that we did with her and buy one or if you could just tell us as we finish up here what do we think about her that caused this constant misunderstanding and tell us what your favorite part was. >> the press wanted her to be pro- abortion. oncee you held thos hold those , they were antagonistic in general you have to break through that over time, and i think she did. but also reserved. she didn't want to make a misstep or do anything to embarrass her husband were creative problem so she was always as careful as she could be and that ends up with you k

i'm nicole wallace in for brian williams. the president has finally spoken about john mccain two days after he passed away. this as the flag at the white house was lowered to half staff to honor mccain. we'll have more on that in just a moment, but first we're following news on multiple fronts about robert mueller's russia investigation. less than a week after paul manafort was convicted on bank and fraud charges, the "wall street journal" is reporting that paul manafort sought a deal in the next trial. those discussions took place while he was deliberating in his last one in virginia. quote, the plea talks on the second set of charges stalled over issues raised by special counsel robert mueller, one of the people said. it isn't clear what those issues

david foster wallace who shares my deep interest in cancer also unfortunately shared cantor's depressive tendencies and i write about the relationship between foster wallace's attempt to grapple with cantor's theory of infinityin the book and as you all know, david foster wallace very sadly and tragically committed suicide for over five years ago by hanging himself . then another good example, ada lovelace who is the cold goddess of cyber feminism and the namesake of the computer language that the pentagon uses to control weapons system, ada lovelace. she was plagued by nervous crises brought about by her obsession with atoning for the excesses of her father happened to be thepoet lord byron. the russian masters of infinity , kabul were denounced for their anti-materialist spiritualism and murdered. and finally, alan turing, many of you know his story. he was just the subject of a film starring benedict cumberbatch called the imitation game which was a bad film because it made alan turing semen nerd which he was not at all but turing sold the greatest logic problem of his time and save l

joining us by phone former senior advisor and the host of "deadline white house" on msnbc, nicolle wallace. nicolle, i want to start with you since you spent so much time behind the scenes with somebody who most americans know through their television sets, through the campaigns that he waged through seeing the moments of the past few years. what was john mccain, the man, like behind those closed doors when the cameras were off? who was the man that you knew? >> you know, i think so much of john mccain's person a was consistent with what i saw behind the scenes. what you see is what you get. but what i think the high profile moments in politics we

and everyone gives image wallace a hard time and i try to give her the benefit of the doubt. she was a lady of her time, and her husband had committed suicide and she struggled with that. she was a little bit fragile and bess was her lifeline, and bess took a great deal of care not only of her mother, but her younger brothers as well. part of it was also that harry wanted to figure out some way to earn money. he knew that he wanted to be able to keep bess in the life to the which she had become accust accustomed and as a farmer, he was not entirely sure he could do that. so he went through a lot of schemes trying to come up with a lot of ways to make money so that he and bess could have a decent life together. and then world war i happens. harry had been in the national guard in the early 1900s and he had volunteer and joined the national guard and when president wilson declared war in 1916, he eagerly or 1917, he eagerly joined up. and of course, that gave bess a little bit of pause. by this time, of course, they were in their 30s and bess was a little bit eager to get marri

police say michael wallace was picking up a group of four outside a marriot. the price of the ride. he got a black eye and split lip from the fight. then suddenly wallace said he couldn't breathe and collapsed. the passengers then called 9-1-1. but he eventually died. police are awaiting the results of an autopsy to see exactly what caused wallace's death. (pam) ahead in sports... gary and his lovely wife alicia answer viewer emails.(ken) and how did warriors star steph curry perform today on the grass...gary has details...and all the sports...coming up. next at 8 what was supposed to be a routine traffic stop....tustate trooper. the jaw shootout with a suspect. (pam) police in pennsylvania are releasing body camera footage of a shootout from last year.. that seriously injured a state trooper.(ken) emma wright gives us a look at the dramatic video. in november 2017, state trooper ryan sieple made what was supposed to be a routine traffic stop on route 33 in plainfield township, northampton county.dash cam video shows daniel clary getting a ticket for speeding,

>> well, i mean, i, are you suggesting henry wallace was a communist? >> i am suggesting people have made the argument that the communist party was stronger than people today think. so much so that they might have a >> there were plenty but, they didn't garner all that much support, and certainly, wallace appealed to the progressive wing of the democratic party, and definitely, wallace appealed to people, for example, in the south, who supported what we would say is the beginning of the civil rights movement and racial integration. as a result of that, wallace was often charged with being a communist, garnering the support of communists who wanted racial integration. that was the way the segregationists targeted and tarnished the champions of racial integration in 1940 eight and 1949. but to answer your question directly and succinctly, the communist party had no significant power whatsoever in the united states in the late 1940's. >> excellent. i had this wonderful experience in the truman library where an archivist brought out a package of cigarettes

look at the naacp survey. >> george wallace being democrat. >> after the civil rights act and votingn vs. board of education where a number of democrats including thurman left the party began to switch. my comparison in rooted in trumps history. not only do you have bigotry dating back to the fact where he owned casino and he got sued by casino workers or the fact he asked for the central park five after they were exonerated for the death penalty for these individuals and uses racist tropes daily talking ability maxine waters and don lemon. nothing is new under the sun. others, we've seen this type of racism, this type of bigotry. and yes he may not have the relationship like george wallace did, but the fact is he had the relationship with sessions who are pushing back the rights african-americans have had. civil rights, voting rights, environmental rights, and the list goes on and on. and these approval ratings you're throwing about, let's talk about the black unemployment rate that you guys like to use all the time. the fact is when barack obama took office it was 16%. when he left

they rallied strongly behind him and against charge wallace. -- george wallace.hey saw someone very antithetical to the interests of labor. in a sense, that was maybe the best one i can think of of labor almost bringing the democratic nominee over the finish line. from that point on, democrats have a very fractured relationship with the labor movement. a big part of the reason was race. this is something we have talked about. the racial issues that emerged caused a lot60's of issues for the democrats. lou, new's go to york.. caller: thank you. thank you for being on this show this morning. we are all very grateful for your father's dedication to america. he was such a good man. caller: -- guest: thank you. caller: i was 12 years old, and we were in social studies following the primaries with my teacher, mr. getz. i woke up the next morning and asked my parents about the primary, who had one, and they told me about your father. we are all still very upset. we miss your father very much. i want to tell you that we all need to come together as a country to face our

george wallace is running his own american independent party with curtis lemay and george wallace is crazy but lemay even embarrasses wallace. he is anti-civil rights. he wanted to blow it up and they wanted to help them. that is a gross oversimplification but basically wallace is the inheritor of strom thurmond and the 9048 dixiecrat's. they're fighting off a lot of southern democrats. he holds pretty steady. what you see, the race in august, what does it look like? can you read that, can you read the graph? what did the democratic convention due to the humphrey numbers? did it help him? no. in august he was down 16 points. but what do you see happening? he is closing. by the time of the election, it is what they want for a finish point. nixon is out campaigning and i love this picture. because it sets up what i'm about to talk about. one of my signs is this one. character is your qualification , some of you laughed, because you know what is coming. character is your qualification . that brings us to this part right up to the election. it is a matter of treason or not . many america

david foster wallace dies. about empathy, something that probably many people don't associate with justice scalia. forgiveness, very important concept for justice scalia. music, the lessons of childhood and treasuring friendships. first a little bit about the man six months after justice scalia's death my wife and i were in amsterdam. we were staying at the amsterdam hilton the same place where john and yoko had their famous -- i suggested to carolyn we should have a bed in. let's have a bed in to protest. john and yoko were protesting the vietnam war. i wanted to protest justice scalia. the press didn't show up. surprisingly but carolyn said to me why would you try to sum up justice scalia in one paragraph. one paragraph drumming up the man so that's what i did. it ended up eating the second paragraph in the book. the first paragraph is a one sentence paragraph and it goes like this. antonin scalia was a man of strong likes and dislikes. he relished long paragraphs in recoil from single sentence once. paragrap

his name is george wallace. anybody remember george wallace? >> alabama. crazy,crazy right wing, like wanted to go back to -- way worse than what times were. i'll give you law and order at the bayonet. >> so a former governor of alabama. what do you think former governors of alabama are thinking in the 1960s? yes? go ahead, kia. >> in the 1960s, someone from alabama is not going to be for integration or even support what the protests are about. they want what they want the way they want it. >> oh, yeah. >> in very old school. >> very old school. in fact, the last place that we see george wallace is standing in the door of the university of alabama in 1963 saying? >> no black people allowed. >> no african-americans allowed. at which time he's carted off by the sheriffs or by the u.s. marshals and people are allowed in. so he is sort of retrograde. let's cut back on this federal government and their issues of segregation. anybody know who his running mate is? his running mate is bombs away curtis le may. oh, that guy. so what can you say about this ticket? g

i'm katy tur in for nicolle wallace. the white house is showing don mcgahn the door pushing out a central witness in robert mueller's justice investigation. he confirms imminent departure first reported this morning by axios. white house counsel don mcgahn will be leaving his position in the fall shortly after the confirmation hopefully of judge brett kavanagh to the u.s. supreme court. i have worked with don for a long time and truly appreciate his service. >>> only here's the thing. according to a new report from the washington post, though it was an open secret that mcgahn was preparing to leave the white house after kavanagh's confirmation process, mcgahn had never discussed his plans directly with trump, and he was not aware that trump planned to send that tweet before it was posted. according to a person close to mcgahn. mcgahn's anticipated departure is taking on a greater significance after a bombshell last week from "the new york times" underscored the extent of his cooperation with special counsel robert muelle

but that's why the training staff is clearly being thrown under the bus frankly by wallace loh. they may deserve to be thrown under the bus, but you wonder, becausthere were coaches present, including d.j. durkin for this workout, how in the world maryland can eventually walk away from this with d.rk still as the head coach. >> nawaz: so there's a lot of focus on the coaching staff. because of the scrutiny from jordan mcnair's death. teammates have come forward and said, there is a culture problem. it's toxic. there is a lot of verbal abuse, mockery, belittling of players. you cover a lot of college football. ve seen a lot of teams through the years. was it excessive in some waypo based on the s you've seen? what's different? >> if the espn report was true, and they were the ones who broke the story, then it wasy clea excessive. there was emotional abuse, players who,0ñ didn't perform wr forced to lo in the shower room. players who were forced -- who were overweight, they had to ear candy to humiliate them. players who were underweight had to eat until thethrew up. football is a

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george wallace is crazy, but curtis la may even embarrassing wallace. basically wallace is the inheriter of strom thurmond and the 1948 dixiecrats. but he holds steady. what you see in august, what does the race look like? can you read the graph? what did the convention do to humphrey's numbers, help him? no. in august he's down 16 points. but what do you see happening? he's closing. by the time of the election, it's within one percentage point. nixon's out campaigning, and i love this picture. because it sets up what i'm about to talk about. one of my favorite signs is this one. character is your qualification. some of you laugh, because you know what's coming. and that brings us to this part, right up to the election. whether it's a matter of treason or not, the chinault affair. many don't know what that was, but anna chinault just passed away last week. so this woman was 94, but he was right in the middle. and the wife of famous head of the air force, the flying tigers during world war ii, had come to the united states and had become a prominent repu

bagos tripped on the sidewalk as officers trying to take him down to arrest him.elaine wallace/vallejohe. there's no way he could trip from this curb and do that much damage to that door..police also say.. that bagos refused to comply when officers ordered him from underneath his body.. so one of them used a flashlight to repeatedly hit him in his back area and left arm.elaine wallace/vallejothere's no way that the police should be in a position like that. first of all, it's two cops. the guy is on the ground. and while the guy is spending all that energy beating him, the other cop was taking his precious time putting him in handcuffs. and we don't know what happened before because of where the video started . but that does not have to do with the end result was, them beating him like a meat cleaver. he was screaming like an animal screaming and they had no sympathy. they just kept beating him. ( james ) investigators say say a tesla driver who said he áthoughtá his car was in autopilot mode... crashed into the back of a firetruck in san jose. c-h-p says says the tesla rear-ended a fire

wallace to go back. we care about what we do here, our responsibility is to uphold public/private partnerships. treasure island has to be developed. sometimes th all of us have to come to the middle to make things work. in fact, almost about nine months ago the village center agree with the negotiation and they came back here and said we can liver with it live with it and it was appeared by the sierra club. at some point pau all of us will have to get together wit in the interest of the city. we have heard from the other stakeholders that are looking at this marina from people with big boats and people who wul subsidies this and small boat owners. i am comfortable with the sequa that we have here. we went from 450 and we are now back to 220, that is a drastic reduction. no project is the alternative here and that is not good because we have a dela delap delapidated marina. i am comfortable after reading through the analysis because we have exte expertise and they are saying there is no adverse effect bas

george wallace is crazy, but curtis la may even embarrassing wallace. basically wallace is the inheriter of strom thurmond and the 1948 dixiecrats. but he holds steady. what you see in august, what does the race look like? can you read the graph? what did the convention do to humphrey's numbers, help him? no. in august he's down 16 points. but what do you see happening? he's closing. by the time of the election, it's within one percentage point. nixon's out campaigning, and i love this picture. because it sets up what i'm about to talk about. one of my favorite signs is this one. character is your qualification. some of you laugh, because you know what's coming. and that brings us to this part, right up to the election. whether it's a matter of treason or not, the chinault affair. many don't know what that was, but anna chinault just passed away last week. so this woman was 94, but he was right in the middle. and the wife of famous head of the air force, the flying tigers during world war ii, had come to the united states and had become a prominent repu

martha mccollum in for chris wallace. rewarded!ard.com not in this house.? 'cause that's no ordinary family. that's your family. which is why you didn't grab just any cheese. you picked up new kraft expertly paired cheddar and swiss for eggs. beat that! kraft. family greatly. so we know how to cover almost we've anything.st everything even "vengeful vermin." not so cute when they're angry. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ >> i am martha mccollum for chris wallace. an eerie anniversary as hundreds of white nationals prepare to mount a repeat rally. this time in front of the white house. market one year since the torch march and the violence in charlottesville. ♪ [shouting] >>martha: the event today is expected to drop thousands of counter protesters. >> we know we have people coming to the city for the sole purpose of spewing hate. >>martha: while in virginia - - we will discuss the state of race relations in america

madge wallace died in december 1952. so right before they left the white house was when she died and as far as i can tell, had madge not died they would is still moved right back into the truman home with harry's mother- in-law. >> when was the last correspondence between the two of them? >> the last one that we have, i think is around 1958-ish, nine- ish? but of course clearly as i got older, they didn't travel without each other as much and they were together so they didn't write. and of course as harry got older, he wrote to everybody like this. not just his wife. he wrote to his mother, his sisters, his cousins that lived across the street. he wrote to everybody like that. and it is interesting as he got older, especially when he was here at the library. his secretary started typing letters and he would just sign them. but up until about the mid-, early mid 60s he was still hand right a lot of letters. everybody. inspected either of them keep a diary? >> harry did, quite frequently. again he liked, he was very fond o