. >> yes, to the extend -- wally herger and i had a meeting, an 80-vote thing last week that kept us from meeting, but iveed met with dave camp, we've discussed our relative problems and we are planning, i hope, next week early to meet with them as a group. they, as you know have a short outline of their bill. they've seen, and they're getting all the information from us. they're receiving all of your -- all of our, 300 or 00 pages, whatever. so the staffs are working hand in glove. there are differences, obviously. but we're not -- we're keeping them informed and they're keeping us informed. >> a lot of debate in the senate on single payer option, will that be part of the bill? >> it's an essential part of the bill without which it would be impossible to have competition and assure the american people they have a choice of plans because nobody trusts the private insurance companies. all they do is figure out how to not give you coverage. private insurance companies spend all kinds of -- this guy geller had testimony, they're going to support rescission. rescission says after you get