>> stephen: are you walter hitty, is ben stiller walter hitty. >> yeah, sure there are parts of me i relate to in the character. >> stephen: don't yell at me, don't yell at me, i'm asking you a question. >> sorry, sorry. >> stephen: all right, what i want to know is -- >> i'm-- i didn't get your your film, i didn't get-- cards on the table, i'm not one of these hollywood elitists who understand films like something about mary or tropic thunder or this one. >> i get it. >> stephen: i don't get art film. >> you don't go for the high fall outin. >> stephen: i don't go for that. -- does things that are real. >> he engages in real life. >> stephen: he actually does things later. >> he does real things, things that he imagined doing and he has to step into reality, and kind of seize the moment and go and live his life for real. >> stephen: which one of those is better. >> well, real life, i think, you know, is a good thing. and having an imagination is a good thing also. i think both are aspects, your imagination, your day dreams can fuel your real life and get to you do things that you wo