. >> for more on this, we're joined by ricoh's executive director kara swisher and walter isaacson. >ter, jon and i were discussing why it took so long to get a piece like this to air. but now that it's here, let's talk about google's response and do you think policy changes as an influence to this >> a company like google is able to leverage its dominance or monopoly, you could say, in one field, which is search, in order to crush competition or potential competition in other fields now the anti-trust laws have two-prong tests. one is good for consumers and the other, is it good for competition? sometimes those are aligned. google would argue it's kind of good for the consumer that when i -- i'm here in new orleans and if i google french quarter restaurants, it sends me to yelp, open table but now the first rankings are google's own maps showing me french quarter restaurants they would say -- google would say correctly, that's kind of cool for the consumer. it's easier. but it does mean that if you're yelp or open table or you're doing any other shopping or travel or restaurant site,

fellows at the aspen institute and it recently has gone through a transition in leadership with walter isaacson who is probably the premier biographer of our time just stepped down as president at the institute and eric shepherded that process with the wisdom and policy that would just make, you know, make you shake your head. it was a very desired position and no one could have handled it as well. many of us think eric should have been the president. >> he will be next. >> we expect them to be there at some point but were proud to have him here on this day with a fellow southerner and tells an amazing story in his book. >> it is so compelling we would let him tell it himself. thank you, eric. [applause] >> i thought you would do a dual there for a second. what a real pleasure what a pleasure being here. this independent bookstore is one of the greatest bookstores in the country and a wonderful reminder from its latin origins of the importance of ideas and how ideas bring us together and shape community. i want to thank the barksdale's and hope and bill for your hospitality. an incredible day h

great writers, walter isaacson, mcculloch, he started working for sports illustrated. from respected institutions and he has his from harvard. minus from yale. this is like that too lines of apostolic succession. we are the end. there is nobody after us. because we are still under the impression that the founding is the big bang and the american political universe. that renovates meaning -- radiates meaning still now. that students are now being fed is that these are the dentist, whitest males in american history. , whitest males in american history. american history should be called anti-american history. history is about how native americans were systematically eliminated and slavery was permitted to continue and women's rights were not permitted to develop in the full way that they could have. those are all storylines that are worth exploring. but for that to then take the taken, that its means that young people coming in to college don't learn about the revolution or the constitution or the civil war, they are only following a line of interpretation that draws them

same with walter isaacson. same with mcculloch. mcculloch started working for "sports illustrated." we have phd's from respected institutions. his is from harvard and mine is from yale. these are the two lines of apostolic succession, ok? [laughter] and we're the end. there is nobody after us. and because we're still under the impression that the founding is the great bang, the big bang in the american political universe, that radiates meaning out for us still now, and we still wantto be reading these guys. the great myth that students are now being fed is these are the deadest, whitest males in american history. and that american history should be called anti-american history. the story is about the way in which native americans were systematically eliminated and slavery was permitted to continue and women's rights were not permitted to develop in the way they could have. now look, those are all storylines that are worth exploring. but for that to then take the form that it has taken, it means that young people coming into college learn about the revolution or the constitution, or