john conley, walter jenkins. many interviews. i spent almost the whole week at john connolly's ranch, watching his horses exercise. he would talk to me. he's dead. walter jenkins is dead. i used to be able to call george reedy. he understood. you didn't have to make a lot of nonsense. that scene you told me where johnson was talking to george wallace, was he in the rocking chair or behind the desk? he would say, behind the desk. now i don't have that. he has a secretary who has been a great help to me. she was sitting right outside the oval office all this time. she was on the plane coming back from dallas. larry temple, his last white house counsel, has been very helpful. -- don johnson, who later became the president of cnn. joe palifonof -- has spent so much time with me. he was the chief of getting the domestic legislation through congress. i said, is there anything else i can do for you? he has this row of big, black scrapbooks. i was embarrassed to ask. i said, what you could do for me is take down these books one at a time

john connelly, you know, walter jenkins. spent -- many interviews. i spent almost the whole week at john connolly's ranch, often we'd sit on a fence watching his horses exercise. he would talk to me from dawn to dark so he's dead. walter jenkins is dead. i used to be able to call george reedy. he understood. you didn't have to make a lot of nonsense. you'd say, george, that scene you told me where johnson was talking to george wallace, was johnson in the rocking chair or behind the desk? reedy would say, in the rocking chair. you go back to type. i don't have that. he has a secretary, marie, who's been a great help to me. she was sitting right outside the oval office all this time. she was on the plane coming back from dallas. larry temple, his last white house counsel, has been very elpful, tom johnson, who later works with johnson when he was 23 and later became the president of cnn. brian: and he's still chairman of the foundation? robert: i think he's chairman. joe calafano spent -- has spent so much time with me. i had three or four long intervi