walter lippmann in the 1920s had a concept called "spectator democracy" in which he said that the public was a herd that needed steering by the elites. now he thought that people just didn't have the capacity to understand all these complicated issues and had to delegate it to experts of various kinds. but since then, the notion of spectator democracy has, i think, extended to include the need to divert the country from the master narrative, which is the influence and importance and imperviousness to accountability of large corporations and the increasing impotence of the public through its agency, the government, to do anything about it. so the more diversion and the more entertainment, the less news, the less you focus on that story, the better off it is. >> are you saying that the people who run this political media business, the people who fund it, want to divert the public's attention from their economic power? is that what you're saying? >> yes. let us fight about you know, whether this circus or that circus is better than each other, but please don't focus on the big change which