walter mondale. s was your day of glee in 1984. >>> to keep his job, president obama will need to win big in large cities like philadelphia and the surrounding suburbs. republicans are working hard to turn pennsylvania red. mayor michael nutter of philadelphia joins me now. thank you so much for being on the program. >> thank you. >> for president obama to win pennsylvania, he will need a huge outpouring of support around philadelphia. he had 54% of the vote back in 2008, especially in those surrounding areas. do you see a sort of sense of a less enthusiasm this time around to the president's policies, specifically in the surrounding suburbs, main line areas of philadelphia that he so desperately needs? >> two things. one, let me mention i appreciate you mentioning i'm president of the u.s. conference of mayors. the conference itself is a nonpartisan and, actually bipartisan organization. so i'll speak to these particular issues as -- just as the mayor of the city of philadelphia. i'm a democrat, stro

she ran alongside walter mondale against ronald reagan and george bush the elder, and walter mondale and geraldine ferraro got crushed. they lost that election by an enormous margin. they lost 49 states. this is what the electoral map looked like in 1984. just a sea of red. and now, what is mostly forgotten to history about that election in which geraldine ferraro did not become the first woman vice president. what is largely forgotten about that election is a tax return scandal which among other things showed that geraldine ferraro and her husband owed more than $50,000 in back taxes. turned up on their tax returns. they blamed it on an error blamed by an accountant. they paid off the back taxes, although the geraldine ferraro financial mess was a fascinating little election jeer scandal, it does not tend to be cited as a key factor in the spectacular loss in 1984. the reason we care at all about the geraldine ferraro tax scandal that has mostly been forgotten, the only reason it matters is because it represents as big a scandal as there is in american politics stemming from a candi

again, nobody accused walter mondale or jimmy carter or bill clinton of being a foreigner. >> what iay, chris, is that yes, it does have some political utility. it works now because it strikes a deeper cord. this is what senator mccarthy was trying to do. t trying to whip up and make people alien, foreign, and then make them radio active so you can do anything you want to them. >> well, mccarthy was drunk most of the time and wrong all the time. before he became elected, a couple of communists they did find, but i want to thank you guys. great to have you on. up next, the first couple on the kiss cam. we're going to lighteni things up. there he goes. romeo. this is "hardball." stay with us. the place for politics. [ female announcer ] with the e-trade 360 investing dashboard. free streaming quotes, all your investments, positions, and even your trade ticket are all on one customizable page. see the 360 investing dashboard at e-trade. [romney singing]: oh beautiful, for spacious skies, i'm barack obama and i approve this message. for amber waves of grain, for purple mountains majesty,

again, nobody accused walter mondale or jimmy carter or bill clinton of being a foreigner. in their thinking. >> what i want to say, chris, is that yes, it does have some political utility. it works now because it strikes a deeper cord. but it is not only ethnic. i think this is cane to what senator mccarthy was trying to do. trying to whip up and make people alien, foreign, and then make them radioactive so you can do anything you want to them. >> well, mccarthy was drunk most of the time and wrong all the time. before he became elected, a couple of communists they did find, but i want to thank you guys. eugene robinson, great to have you on as always. keep it up. up next, the first couple on the kiss cam. we're going to lighten things up. why it took them two efforts to get this right here. romeo. there he is. thanks. this is "hardball." stay with us. the place for politics. ♪ hello...rings ♪ what the... what the... what the... ♪ are you seein' this? ♪ ♪ uh-huh... uh-huh... uh-huh... ♪ ♪ it kinda makes me miss the days when we ♪ ♪ used to rock the microphone ♪ back when o

approved that. >> walter mondale proved that on the tax issue, for sure.act is the deadline is coming. i'm not as pessimistic. it's so insane to go over the fiscal cliff that i have to believe at the end of the day people avoid that. what's starting to happen, you're starting to see in the markets nervousness about this. people are starting to focus on it. there's something called the fear index. there are other indices around all suggesting that. this is starting now to get through to the investor community that we have a problem. >> just one other point is there is some conversation on the hill. there was a politico story yesterday that mccain, lindsey graham and other big players, john kerry and others are talking about taxes. >> i think there are a lot of conversations going on on the hill among the responsible people including a lot of the people you just mentioned who recognize that going over the cliff is crazy. but it's kind of a little bit like -- it's a lot of foreplay. i don't think they're really yet down to anything serious. the other thing ha

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july, if i'm right, george, you will celebrate your 90th birthday, 90 years young. [ applause ] walter mondale, vice president of the united states under jimmy carter. [ applause ] god, don't we wish we had men like that in washington today? [ applause ] i got to know -- he was attorney general of minnesota, then he was appointed senator in 1964 to take hubert humphries' a place when lbj was elected president and humphry vice president. 1966 he was elected in his own right, democratic party nominee for president in 1994 and ambassador to japan for four years in the 1990s. he is still practicing law in minneapolis, and when he was vice president, i think it's fair to say that no one was more responsible for my getting the job as secretary of hew than you are. wonderful, wonderful man. bill moyers. [ applause ] one of our -- one of our country's most prolific and respected journalists. a 40-year run on public broadcasting with a new series this year, i think it's "moyers & a company." he helped organize the peace corps. he was press secretary and a close confidante of lbj, publisher of newsday.

walter mondale, vice president of the united states under jimmy carter. don't we wish we had men like that in washington today. i got to -- he was the attorney general of minnesota, then he would be, he was appointed senator in 1964 to take hubert humphrey's place when lbj was elected president. in 1966 he was elected in his own right. as the democratic party nominee for president in 1984. ambassador to japan. for four years. in the 1990s. he is still practicing law in minneapolis and when he was vice president, i think it's fair to say that no one was more responsible for getting my job as secretary of h.e.w., than you were. a wonderful, wonderful -- man. >> bill moyers, probably -- well -- one of our, one of our countries d most prolific and respected journalists. 35 emmys, a 40-year run on public broadcasting with a new series this year. i think it's "moyers and company." he helped to organize peace corps. he was press secretary and a close confidante of lbj, publisher of "newsday." when bill called me, i was working in the pentagon. when bill called m

walter mondale in 1984 had settled on dianne feinstein and at the last minute literally, changed hispalin, last -- >> palin, very much the last second. so i'm sure he has a sense of who the probably two or three final iisists are, but as long there's time to think about it, there's time to change your mind. >> i differ a little bit. i think he has made up his mind. i think he's known for some time idealy who fits into the box for the vp and i think he has personally narrowed that down to two or three people and i think he's made up his mind. it's just a matter of as he said, only he and beth know for sure. >> not these three? >> i don't think it's something he's just going to dawdle over and last minute decide. i think he knows who he thinks will work best with him running this fall campaign. >> if we want to stop talking about bain and tax returns, i think today. we'll be right back to talk about more, but let's do some trivia. we ask which republican congressman played in two super bowls. the answer, answer, new jersey congressman john runnion. he helped the titans reach the super

the where is the beef ad that walter mondale used against gary hart supposedly, the candidate of newht have saved mondale's nomination to, no end in '84. he lost badly to ronald reagan. >> i would love to go on and on but we need to wrap. dr. allan lichtman, republican strategist jack burkeman, thank for coming in. >>> up next get ready to feel the effects of the nationwide drought. the feds predict food spices are about to spike. >> plus new details on the cheating scandal that's rocked hollywood and angered twilight fans worldwide. >> and we are keeping a close eye on line of severe thunderstorms passing through our region. sue has the latest on her full forecast coming up. >>> businesses are still bottoming, the only big bright spot airplanes. the report fuming that america's manufacturing sector is -- fueling that america's manufacturing sector is slowing down, but markets jumping amid talks of yet another bailout in europe but starbucks warning the slump around the globe is beginning to eat into profits, the coffee giant lowering expectations. facebook oping its books as a -- op

humphrey, but orville straightman later became governor of minnesota and asserted a junior member, walter mondalealthough he came a little later. but you know, with humphrey, avram curt patrick -- excuse me, had really performed minnesota politics, kick to the communists out of the fringe of the democratic party want and for all. he had been part of the oss precursor to the cia during world war ii and always had these intelligence connections. and he hired her and even though there was this age gap that had been married a couple times already, but she didn't fully know i think the full story of that. he became a mentor as well as an employer and he too showed her one of her first jobs for him was editing some papers, captured by soviet prisoners who had showed the extent of the gulags, that sort of thing. another ovation at this totalitarianism. and so, he introduced her to all his -- it must've been a swirl of grandeur and excitement for a jumbo man. at this time, hubert humphrey was senator, living on washington in her as her husband was called, was in not swirl and introduced her to that swirl

, but orville friedman who later became governor of minnesota and sort of as a junior member, walter mondale, although he came a little later. but,ounow, wthumy ev kirk pat kirkpatrick -- excuseme --ad kicked the communists out of the fringes of the decratic party once and for al. d adnpaf t urtoiauring rld war ii, so he had that experience and always had these intelligence connections. so he saw something inje anenugerasis e ane d been himself married a couple of times already -- which she didn't fully know, i think, the full story of that -- he became a mentor as well as an employer. heijo for him was editing some papers captured by the nazis, soviet prisoners that they had taken tat showed the ntthuat s t. hendviofis hell of totalitarianism. and so he, you know, he introduced her to all this. it must have been a swirl of grandeur and excitement for a ung woman, you kn gettg toee te, tbehuey was a senator living in washington and kirk, as her husband was called, was in that swirl and introduced her to that swl. d, uyono inkt staee hly excing. and she was bowled over by him, really, and fel

>> james johnson was a democratic political operator who had run up walter mondale's campaign for president. he was a guy who was in wall street a little bit, and who had worked at lehman brothers in a washington lobbying effort. he had come out of democratic minnesota politics. that is where he was born. that is where he was raised. he went to princeton, and then came to washington. he really understood the game. the key thing he knew he had to do was to protect the government subsidy, to protect the implied government guarantee that stood behind fannie mae. and freddie mac. >> let me read you another line under a picture of fannie mae headquarters. you say, "fannie mae's sumptuous and sprawling headquarters in washington was designed to resemble the governor's palace in colonial williamsburg." seeing that picture, i start to think, how have we never seen inside this place? have you ever been in it? >> i have never been in it. i have been writing about fannie mae as a political machine since the mid-1990's, but i am not a friend of fannie mae. but i have never been inside. certainly, some

because all of us remember walter mondale in the 1984, when he said, reagan says he won't raise taxessay i will. that didn't work out so well for mondale. >> well, he didn't have to wait for charlotte. he said two days ago that he wanted to end the taxes on the wealthy. so it's already at that point. by the way, that has been a consistent position of president obama. it was his position in 2008. and now he's saying it's something different, that if they don't let this -- they don't raise taxes on top earners, that he's going to veto the whole bill, which is taking it to a new realm, if you will. but certainly he should say that in charlotte. he said it two days ago -- >> but, stan, you know the republicans will use this -- >> please! >> -- obama only wants to raise taxes, raise taxes, raise taxes they seem to be pretty happy with those statements. >> i think it's an old song, and right now this is a consensus position. there's something like 75% of the country that thinks we need to raise taxes, particularly on the wealthy. it runs across all parties. this is one of the few non-polari

with this ad campaign, and he will have the lowest numbers from a working class voters since walter mondalehite collar upper class voters and we don't know how they respond to that. obama leads on who will be better for the middle class, and romney is leading for who is better for the e kconomy overal. >> and i need the last quick answer from you which is from your knowledge of how these things go at the end of the day in november, the day after the election, how much money will have been spent on ads? >> we will have over $3 billion spent on spot local television. that is in all races from dog catcher to president. when you ad in the cable buys, that number will be more like $3.6 billion. >> somebod somewhere is happy. >> and it is go paying to be negative. >> somebody is supposed to be getting rich and i guess it is us, right? ken, thank you. we will continue this discussion and plus an update on the military veterans and service members who are lost in the system. now get an incredible offer on the powerful, efficient c250 sport sedan with an agility control sport-tuned suspension. but h

walter mondale. you had al gore, john kerry and they could never win with the kooks. the only time the democrats could not put up a kooks they won. he was kooky in other ways. but when it came to ideology, he was a relatively mainstream democrat. he was a pragmatist. he was a political animal. he wanted to win and thrive in office more than anything else that he was going to compromise. he was head of the dlc, democratic leadership for a long time which is now extinct because there are no more moderates. so the democrats didn't put up a kooks they actually won, but the kooks wouldn't give up and said they continued to put up kook after kooks because we are a center-right nation. until they found, as they read in the book, the perfect marriage of man ambition and barack obama. a young, hip, biracial cool guy who invoked jfk with a glamorous life into beautiful young ildren. a guy who spoke with a silver tongue. they finally had their savior and they knew it. and he was as they call them in the book, the big on a. so in a bid to grab the brass ring and won the election

here -- this is a crisis number, a historically low number for democrats, you have to go back to walter mondale to find a performance this bad -- it's the same as the way romney is with hispanics. the president -- if the president gets skunked, he ends up with more than 100 electoral votes in rust belt, i-70 corridor states that have such large populations of these voters. and if they are so sharply against him, he can't make it over the finish line. megyn: why is that voting bloc so heavily against him, the noncollege white men, you know, white men who haven't gone to college, why are they so heavily against him? you know, the president has been accused, and we're going to talk about this later because he's accused of it again, of engaging in language that his critics call class warfare, you know, demonizing the rich, i'm the guy who's going to protect the middle class and the blue collar workers, and these blue collar -- at least the white blue collar workers seem to be saying no to that, they seem to be rejecting that. why? >> the president never move today the middle after his midterm shell

white working class voters who are maybe as much as 40% of the election threa electorate since walter mondale. megyn: if bill clinton were running they'd say, there i my guy. i love bill clinton, the boy from hope. if they don't connect with president obama is bill clinton getting up there and saying, trust me, he's good going to do it? >> i tell you what he's going to say. he's pretty good, he's not as good as i was, but he's pretty good, he's pretty good. megyn: there is risk of that with president clinton, there is very real risk of that. >> that's what he does. you remember in the springtime whether they sal lead forth with presiden president clinton to get wall street to open up the wallets after the president had started the attacks on bain capital and mitt romney and clinton went to vouch for him with the rich votes in new york. he was trying to help him with the rich white voters that the president has always struggled w. east was doing it he contin contradicted, insulted president obama and praised mitt romney in the span of a week. megyn: we have that keyed up. >> i don't believe we

he is going to succeed where walter mondale failed.dent obama's signature economic policy is a promise to raise taxes on job creators when we are facing the 40th straight month of unemployment in excess of 8%. martha: there you have it. orrin hatch in some heated discussion that will continue over the course of the next several days to be sure at least. bill: certainly will. they're drawing the lines yet again seems like a battle we fought and we're going to fight it again. martha: joining democrats, some of whom it should be a million dollars the cuttoff. we'll see if that is open negotiation over the course of those meetings. we'll watch. bill: meantime she could be president obama's secret weapon in 2012. why the first lady, michelle obama, is being called the president's messenger to the middle class. will the strategy work? we'll check in on that. martha: hours away from a debate on capitol hill to repeal the president's health care law. that is big thing going on here today. one of the top republicans in the house, we've deputy w

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he is going to succeed where walter mondale failed. president obama's signature economic policy is a promise to raise taxes on job creators when we are facing the 40th straight month of unemployment in excess of 8%. you don't need to do a sophisticated poll to figure out how popular this policy is in swing states or with independents. just look at what happened here this morning. republicans offered a vote on the president's plan, and democrats balked at the opportunity. democrats are filibustering president obama's signature domestic policy, a bill to increase taxes, and they are doing so because many members of their own conference know that a vote for these tax increases would sink them back home. they know that. madam president, this is a pathetic spectacle made even more so by the fact that time is running short. the fiscal cliff is approaching, and families and businesses need to know what their tax rates will be next year. to date, the senate's democratic leadership has done absolutely nothing to provide that certainty. it reall