it was a good aty for old democr - that provided a little bit of an opening for walter mondale, and so was able to win i think two or three states on super tuesday. ha swept across the board on super tuesday, i think it would've been impossible for mondale to stay in. - gary hart soldiers on and keeps winning enough primaries so that by the time the democratic convention rolls around in san francco, mondale does not have a lock on the nomination. - i won 25 primaries and caucuses and went all the way to the conventio - i'd like to introduce a candidate of great courage, senator gary hart. - i ha and there hasn't been a contest like that in 50 years or more. and i am proud to be a member of a party thatrages shirley chisholm and jesse jackson to run for president. [cheers anapplause] the sunday before the convention had secret service walking the streets of san francisco, and i turned a corner, and there was reverend jackson, soic said, "secret se let's go visit reverend jackson," and i had not made a phone call or athing. i said, "jesse, let's combine our forces." he said, "fine with m

i became a speech writer for the vice president of the united states, walter mondale.time in the spring of 1980. talk about luck. i had met, again, shear blind luck once at a dinner the chief speech writer. and we met a second time. talking about the job. he said, you know, he mentioned the third speech writer had quit. i thought well, i might be interested. i said well, maybe i could apply. he said okay. so he gave me the to jim johnson. jim johnson was the chief of staff to mondale. interviewed me and of course the first question is can you show me a writing sample? so i had to go through the same thing, sorry, i don't have any. have you ever written a speech no. i will tell you what, mondale is giving a speech next week. write me a speech. i looked up political speech and began reading them. so i get an idea of what political speeches look like. it struck me when i first came to washington is the fact that all the monuments here, unlike the monuments in europe, are monuments with words on them. i decided i would make that the theme. i wrote that they liked it. they

ronald reagan meets walter mondale.erybody is calling it a major opportunity for mondale. >> he doesn't need just to win by a nose. he needs to win to stay with it by four or five lengths. he needs to do well because he starts from so far back. >> the question of ronald reagan's age had always been in the back of minds of a lot of people. he was by this time the oldest american president, and he was well into his 70s. >> i -- as i say, i feel that we have a problem here to resolve. >> reagan in the first debate against walter mondale looks confused. speaks too long. gets lost. it's not just that walter mondale won that debate. it's that people fear, is ronald reagan lost? and for the first time they start talking about the age issue. >> it showed without cue cards and teleprompters the great communicator doesn't always communicate all that well. >> we had six dress rehearsals last time. plus loading him with computer statistics. the man was absolutely smothered by extraneous material. and this time we're going to let ro

and walter mondale's fascinating. i interviewed every living former vice president, so all six of them including vice president mondale. and he actually, i learned he called the german ambassador at one point and apologized on behalf g of the united states wn president trump did not shake chancellor merkel's happened. so this is -- hand. so this is somebody who is very much aware of what's going on, still very attuned to american politics and watching kind of surprised at the turn the political landscape has taken. >> host: and you paint a picture of the relationship between john kennedy and lyndon johnson and how that changed when kennedy became the nominee. and with joe biden you write the following, obama clearly had the upper hand in their relationship. accordingg to ron klain, his perspective was simple if not condescending. this is my house, thesehi are my things. i'm interested in your views, joe, i want you to be happy here, but you are a guest in my house. >> guest: i love that you're a. best in myt house, bec

walter mondale is probably the biggest to for the nomination in 1984. when they endorsed him and had 13.7 million members. when it endorsed hillary clinton had 12.5 million numbers but that wasn't just the loss of a million members because of the mondale election, 92 american -- 92 million participated. there's a reason democrats felt comfortable marching toward that and not worry about blue-collar worker because they just make much smaller piece of the pie. >> you talk about this in the book racial the difference in the past 30 years between the top fortune 500 companies that there were 92 and what they are today. >> i think there are seven companies in 1972 to 92 in the top ten fortune companies in america and six that endured from 1962. there was no one voting in america who voted before that. there's maybe five people casting a ballot from a nursing home who voted before that. now it's about three. >> in the book you can see the difference between the porch and 252, 92 and 16 nuc overtime the source of companies and who they employ has shifted remar

people -- a lot of people have this idea of minnesota, that was hubert humphrey's state and walter mondale's state, very democratic. keep in mind, hillary clinton carried minnesota by two points or three. it was pretty close. when you saw donald trump carry wisconsin, minnesota was not far behind. this is not nearly as democratic state as a lot of people see. we have got in minnesota the first district, we have that is a tossup race. it is a district that has a republican tilt presidentially, but it is one of the better chances that democrats have in the country. we have three tossups, the first, second, and third districts, as well as the eighth. now that i think about it, when i was talking about new jersey, pennsylvania, virgin you -- virginia, minnesota is not as early in the evening but when you are looking for pockets of really close races, i do not think i fully appreciated that minnesota has a concentration of really tight house races that is probably as great as any other state. host: tom from chicago, our line for republicans. caller: i would like to ask mr. cook, back in 1994 you

there was a time when labor wagged the dog for the democratic party, walter mondale, labor's biggest coup, the nomination in 1984, when the afl-cio endorsed of it had 13.7 million members. when it endorsed hillary clinton it had 12.5 million members, that wasn't just the loss of 1 million members, 92 million americans participated coming this election 136 million americans, the electorate has gotten 50% bigger and the afl-cio is a bigger piece of it in raw numbers and there's a reason democrats have felt comfortable marching toward cosmopolitanism and not worrying about the blue-collar worker because it is a smaller piece of the pie. >> you elaborate on this in the book where you show the difference in the past 30 years between the top fortune 500 companies, what they were in 92 and what they are today and you may have gone back even further. >> i will do this from memory but there were 7 companies that from 1972 when bill clinton got elected in the top 10 fortune companies in america and six endured from 1962 which 1962, there is no one voting in america who voted before that, 5 peo

we had the walter mondale era where they thought it was a good idea to run openly on a national levelxes. what happened? they got annihilated. reagan -- lou: don't remind them. >> i know, exactly. well, as a counterrevolution their had the democrat leadership committee, you had southern democrats like bill clinton who came in and moderated a bit, and they rescued their party. i don't think they can do it under donald trump. i think they're so emotionally involved that they can't figure it out. lou: not unless they find a ross perot. that's the only way ld until work. people forget bill clinton didn't even get 50% of the vote when he ran in two successive races. dan, great to have you with us. have a a great weekend, dan bongino. thank you very much. >> you too. lou: almost 30 tornadoes ripping through central iowa yesterday, rural towns like marshalltown suffering direct hits, and this is marshall, iowa. damaged buildings everywhere, down power lines, cars overturned. ten people injured and, thankfully, none killed. >>> up next, the national left-wing media in a frenzy over reports fo

bobby had 75 hours compared to 125 for walter mondale who was a freshman at the same time. bobby writes i didn't do too well, did i? the secretary writes, nope. he brought great attention to senate hearings that other senators could not bring, and those field hearings which he is famously tangling with the sheriff of delano county in california. kern county, i should say. he would draw attention. -- the big three automakers, those hearings. the washington post said he dressed down the executives of the big three as if they were teenagers flunking their driver's ed test. and with the prosecutorial nature, he relished that part of being a senator. they always thought he was going to tackle education, and he never really dead. he did have an ability to attract publicity which is important to get people to pay attention. in those days tv didn't do gavel to gavel of hearings. the cameras literally would be off until some celebrity spoke, then the lights would light up the room and that person would speak. then as soon as that person finished speaking, the lights would be off. it

walter mondale, the biggest coup to shepherd the nomination in 1984 david afl-cio endorsed and their 1313.7 members. when it endorsed hillary clinton at 12 by five members. in the mondale election 92 million americans would participate in the selection 136 million americans. it is a smaller piece of enron numbers. and not worrying about the blue-collar worker because it makes a much smaller piece ofrr the pie. >> you elaborate on this in the book where you show the difference over the past 30 years between the top fortune 500 t companies, what they were and 92 and what they are today. >> i want to do this from memory. seven companies from 1972 until 1992 when bill clinton got elected in the top 10 fortunect 500 companies in america and six from 1962, which there is no one voting in america who voted before that right now. there were five people casting their ballots from a nursing home somewhere. now it is three. >> just to be clear in the book you see the difference between the fortune 25 and 6292 and 16 nbc over time the sorts of companies and clearly the sorts of people they emplo

- dean would've been the walter mondale of 2004. have gotten 49 states, but we wougotten a bundle. he was so crazy and so unhinged and so unmanageable and unru unorganized and undisciplined. we could've had a lot of fun with him. - i was an insurrectionist, and i was a very good on and we built this enormous movement, but people expect you to be esidential, and i wasn't and i knewad tmake the anged itas rlly rd. - politics, particularly in early primary states like iowa, like to see a lot of the candidate, like a lot of the precinct lesel organizing that go into really creating a successful iowa caucus campaign. - our operation in iowa was not as good as it should have been, and--because we started off with noing, and so we built it chewing gum and bailing wire from a--by a terrific person, but we needed the real pros. br- the dean campaign was agging about all these people that are gonna be working the caucuses for him, g and they're all wearange hats. we started talking to them, and then we realized that not one of them was from i

he created the modern vice presidency with walter mondale. he took what had been an office of total disrepute and made it what it is today. after the election mondale submitted requests and access to secret documents, meetings, one-on-one lunches. all were accepted. carter added one other on his own, he moves the vice president now permitted into the west wing. as we know politics everything is location. just yards from the oval office he made him a full partner. mondale almost overstepped because he had one of his aides get the original architectural plans of the west wing and found his new office had originally had a private bathroom which she very much wanted. later he found that it remodeling of the west wing the bathroom had been moved to the national security council's office of henry kissinger. mondale decided not to fight over bathroom and did fine without it. more seriously, you'll read in some detail that this fully engaged vice president came within an eyelash and this is the first time is recorded every signing or of deciding not

bobby had 75 hours compared to 125 for walter mondale who was a freshman at the same time and bobby writes on the sheet, i didn't do too well, did i? the senator wrote nope.>> he brought great attention to the hearings that other senators could not hear -- bring. in the hearings that he is tangling with the sheriff in california in kern county, he would draw attention with the big three automakers in the hearings. the washington post said he dressed down the executives of the big three as if they were teenagers or -- flunking the drivers add test. he really relished that part of being a senator. they always thought he was going to tackle education and he never really did. >> he did have the ability to attract publicity which is important when you are trying to get people to pay attention to the particular issue. in those days, tvs didn't do gavel to gavel on the hearings. the lights would light up when the celebrity spoke and the person would speak. when they finished it would go off. that was the 30 seconds or 60 seconds of the room. when there was a kennedys speaking, the lights were on.

bobby had 75 hours compared to 125 for walter mondale who was a freshman at the same time. and bobby writes on the sheet. i didn't do too well, did i? and his secretary writes back, nope in all capital letters. he brought great attention to senate hearings that other senators could not bring and those field hearings in which he's famously tangling with the sheriff of delano county in california. and kern county, i should say. he would draw attention with automakers, the big three automakers and those sorts of hearings, the "washington post" said he dressed down the executives of the big three as if they were teenagers flunking their driver's ed test and he brought that prosecutorial nature, he relished that part of being a senator. but he, they always thought he was going to tackle education and he never really did. he did have an ability to attract publicity which is important when you're trying to get people to pay attention to whatever the particular issue is. in those days, tv didn't do gavel-to-gavel of hearings, the cameras would be off until some celebrity spoke and

bobby had 75 hours compared to 125 for walter mondale who was a freshman at the same time and bobby writes on the sheet, i didn't do too well, did i? the senator wrote nope.>> he brought great attention to the hearings that other senators could not hear -- bring. in the hearings that he is tangling with the sheriff in california in kern county, he would draw attention with the big three automakers in the hearings. the washington post said he dressed down the executives of the big three as if they were teenagers or -- flunking the drivers add test. he really relished that part of being a senator. they always thought he was going to tackle education and he never really did. >> he did have the ability to attract publicity which is important when you are trying to get people to pay attention to the particular issue. in those days, tvs didn't do gavel to gavel on the hearings. the lights would light up when the celebrity spoke and the person would speak. when they finished it would go off. that was the 30 seconds or 60 seconds of the room. when there was a kennedys speaking, the lights were on.

only reason he didn't win the last one is because it was had the home state of his competitor, walter mondaleid even reagan didn't do it. >> first one to win wisconsin in years. and by the way, there have been seven histories. >> seven others. >> but, john, he watches tv and he's seen himself be corrected over and over on that. >> i can tell you he's probably watching right now. >> i think he's impervious to fact. i really do. i think he's told himself this story and he does dwell -- this is remarkable. and maybe i'm slightly off about this, but i don't think so. i can't remember a president of any era talking as consistently about his predecessors by name and the elections that produced them in this way. so he's constantly refighting and relitigating. >> none of us can remember a president trashing other presidents repeatedly. >> yeah. >> repeatedly. presidents tend to be respectful of other presidents. and on this wisconsin thing, you would think that even if he doesn't read anything, even if he doesn't watch "morning joe," some staff member would have tugged him on the sleeve and -- >> ins

people -- a lot of people have this idea of minnesota, that was hubert humphrey's state and walter mondale'svery democratic. keep in mind, hillary clinton carried minnesota by two points or three. it was pretty close. when you saw donald trump carry wisconsin, minnesota was not far behind. this is not nearly as democratic state as a lot of people see. we have got in minnesota the first district, we have that is a tossup race. it is a district that has a republican tilt presidentially, but it is one of the better chances that democrats have in the country. we have three tossups, the first, second, and third districts, as well as the eighth. now that i think about it, when i was talking about new jersey, pennsylvania, virgin you -- virginia, minnesota is not as early in the evening but when you are looking for pockets of really close races, i do not think i fully appreciated that minnesota has a concentration of really tight house races that is probably as great as any other state. host: tom from chicago, our line for republicans. caller: i would like to ask mr. cook, back in 1994 you predicte