ronald reagan meets walter mondale.t a major opportunity for mondale. >> yeah, he doesn't need just to win by a nose. he needs, to stay with a track metaphor, by five or six or seven lengths. he needs to do well because he starts from so far back. >> the question of ronald reagan's age had always been in the back of minds of a lot of people. he was by this time the oldest american president, and he was well into his 70s. >> i -- as i say, i feel that we have a problem here to resolve. >> when reagan in the first debate against walter mondale looks confused, speaks too long, gets lost, it's not just that walter mondale won that debate. it's that people fear, is ronald reagan lost? and for the first time they start talking about the age issue. >> it showed without cue cards and teleprompters the great communicator doesn't always communicate all that well. >> we had six dress rehearsals last time. plus loading him with computer statistics. the man was absolutely smothered by extraneous material. and this time we're going t

i had the opportunity to meet gary hart along with a number of other people in 1984 and walter mondale and john glenn with a big deal that year and i was fortunate to get to see many of those candidates. >> successful democrats who won a presidency first, bill clinton campaign in 1992 but where were you then and what do you remember about that race? >> bill clinton was the comeback kid and 92 but i was in the state senate and endorsed bob carey so i was not very involved [inaudible] i did not get too involved in that campaign. >> what about 2008? barack obama and hillary clinton. >> again i did not endorse anyone because i was running for the senate in 2008. it was hard fought race so i remember hilary surprised everyone in 2008 because barack obama won the iowa caucus when he people thought he would not be able to do that and hillary did not win and everybody said well, obama is coming into new hampshire and he will win new hampshire going away and that did not happen and hillary won by about three points and so then the fight continued through many states until the convention. >> eve

>> first, i want to defend walter mondale. he's 91 years old. >> martha: a very nice guy. >> and as you know, he was running against ronald reagan in his election. he was a good vice president. i just want to put that in there and an excellent senator. as far as my election, that was a long time ago. this is now. when you look at what we need for our country, we're in such a unique moment. we truly need someone in my mind who can work with people across the aisle. the only one in the senate that is left on that stage that has a track record of doing that in a big way. i passed over 100 bills as the lead democrat. the vanderbilt university in tennessee, last congress found me the most effective democrat on 15 different metrics. i think that matters. because we have someone in the white house right now that wakes up every morning and sends mean tweets. that wakes up every day and figures out how to create wedges. we can do so much better than that as a country. what i have seen across our nation is a number of people that stayed

one for carter's review, one for walter mondale's review, and a third backup copy. day just disappears from the carter white house. >> the mastermind of the theft is never proven, but there's one chief suspect. >> in preparation for writing my book in any campaign, i went through the registration book for people coming to visit, individuals of the reagan campaign. and around the same time, the carter briefing books go missing, a man signs in, then picks up a check for $1500 for professional services. >> and he's not your typical reagan man. >> paul corbin was fiercely loyal to the kennedy family. he hated jimmy carter and he wanted to get reagan elected in 1980, and then ted kennedy defeats ronald reagan in 1984. ted kennedy knew nothing about what paul corbin was doing. >> it shows how deeply many in the kennedy camp hated carter. they actually wanted a republican who many thought might be unfit for president to win the presidency. >> he, of course, denied it, but in all likelihood paul corbin gave the briefing books to bill casey, the chairman of the ronald reagan

walter mondale did that in 199-4 and he won one state. i don't see the winning strategy for bernie sanders. trish: they have on them receives to thank. tonight liberal media stoking the flames of president like when they slandered pro trump teen nick sandmann. >> some students harassing a native american man, a vietnam vet in the middle of a spiritual ceremony. trish: bullies are taking the lead against uconn olympic heroes for wearing hats that support our president. foxnation's diamond and silk are here to respond. new details on chinese nationals with flu-like symptoms caught trying to illegally enter the united states. but first, president trump continuing to hit back at cnn correspondent jip acosta. here is a reminder. >> migrants trying to rush towards this fence. they say thanks but no thanks for a wall. >> i'm not negotiating with you, i will let congress take care of that. president trump: that's enough. that's enough. >> pardon me, ma'am. you are attack our news organization. trish: i have another epic confrontation that happene

with democratic party, if they are running on raising taxes, i'm old enough to remember, walter mondale won one state. does the democratic party, you are telling me the guy they loathe more than anything in the world, that sits in the white house, right now, new york-based white millionaire, they will nominate the new york-based white billionaire, the woke party is who they will back? maybe he seems safest choice, i thought he was formidable candidate because of his rating in new york and the way new yorkers look at his term. he's been successful in business, but boy, between farmers and women and african americans, all these tapes being unearthed, there will not be many people left to insult by the time we get to super tuesday. >> neil: one thing jane sanders, bernie sanders's wife relayed to me over the weekend, this idea, look, we're the leader here, technically, buttigieg is, but so early. saying we won iowa, new hampshire hire, we'll win in nevada. her sense, we'll arrive in milwaukee, the convention site, we'll have by far the most delegates, i'm paraphrasing, i don't want to misq

>> joining us now, joe trippy, long time democratic strategist who has advised everyone from walter mondale and howard dean, and alexander row has, rojas, a progressive political action committee. a snip pet from joe biden there and he says i will be probably take a hit here. and why would a candidate cede in the opening line. what is at play here? >> i think it is about setting expectations and i don't think he has high expectations in new hampshire. as you pointed out, sanders won two to one, better than two to one in 2016. i don't think anybody doubts that he is likely to win on tuesday. i would caution though in the polling, you know, in 2008, the day before the primary in new hampshire, barack obama surged to a ten-point lead in the poll that was released monday morning, the day before the primary. the night of the primary, he lost to hillary clinton. i think the order is going to change dramatically from this poll, it is just the way new hampshire moves here at the very end. both iowa and new hampshire move quickly, both are capable of surprises, and i think, i'm not saying that sande

hampshire primary was 1980 when it was jimmy carter and ted kennedy and sometimes it has been walter mondale and gary hart, two were maybe three tickets out of new hampshire. they may not be tickets but people are going to keep going for the rise, certainly the top five, no one is going to quit tonight and in fact the race is going to get bigger because you're going to get mayor bloomberg who is just sitting there waiting setting up so well for him in the sense that the field is confused and scuffed up and he would be very happy if the front runner coming out of all of these four races in february is bernie sanders because then he thinks preemptively he takes over the moderate lane and he can go against sanders and that would be something to see a billionaire and michael bloomberg and bernie sanders a democratic socialist campaigning against billionaires. >> this has not been a good new cycle for michael bloomberg and until he is on the stage or in an interview defending himself one himself one on one, we don't know how he's going to hold up. >> dana: we will talk about that more this hour.

the, barry goldwater, walter mondale, michael dukakis lost in a big way based on less bad policies lessad policies if i could pit put it that way than what the democrats are watching now. here is what the president thought about bernie sanders. >> i think of communist when i think of bernie. you could say socialist, but didn't he get married in moscow? now elizabeth warren i call her fairytale because everything is a fairytale. that is how pocahontas got started, everything sis a fairytale. this woman can't tell the truth. liz: show "rolling stone" headline. senator and drew yang, 2020 democrat contender, saying quote i think many americans are exhausted by our politics. there is a sense that democrats are painting trump as cause of all the problems. many americans are fed up. there is more focus on trump than what towns and cities want. your reaction to all that? >> i think they made a big mistake with the impeachment. it is real simple. americans want opportunity of capitalism. they don't want squalor of socialism. they know socialism will bring squalor. that is where democrats are he

senate in minnesota translated directly into president i would've grown up under the presidency is walter mondale. >> i meant it sarcastically. >> michael bloomberg eventually launched an attack on the front runner. >> the best-known socialist in the country happens to be a millionaire with three houses, what did i miss here? >> which tax haven? >> new york city thank you very much and i pay all of my taxes. >> sanders is the only contender arguing that delicate leader should win even if he hasn't clinched. >> that's with the bloomberg campaign is trying to block. >> if we choose a candidate who appeals to a small base like senator sanders it will be a fatal error. >> his warning is on welcomed by the candidates who insist he must drop out. >> if he thinks there's got to be one alternative to bernie sanders i suppose we could find common ground on that, maybe he should step aside for the person who has the most delegates right now. >> bloomberg is it likely to step aside because his campaign just revealed he has already invested 409 million of his own dollars in this campaign. president trump say

that these liberal pundits are so afraid, really betrays the fact they know what happened to walter mondale. they lost huge. liz: you know who is old enough to know about communism is bernie sanders. he is in his 40s in '70s and0's. want your reaction to this sound bite, bernie on fidel castro of cuba. >> we're very opposed to authoritarian nature of cuba. it is unfair to simply say everything is bad. you know, when fidel castro came into office you know what he did? he had a massive literacy program? is that a pad thing even though fidel castro did it. >> a lot of dissidents didn't -- >> that's right. we condemned that. liz: this comes to u.n. united nations study. 9.3 million people in venezuela, a third of the population are starving or moderately food insecure. remember, bernie said food lines are a good thing. all the stuff is coming back. you know what i mean, john? >> it is horrible. this reminds me of when castro died, justin trudeau, kind of lost prime minister of canada tweeted some note of, that he was wonderful and there was, this whole discussion about how you know, castro did

john glenn finished way back in the pack in the democratic party and they were sure walter mondale onethat's terrible. they left john glenn by the roadside when he might have done better. so both parties are watching this closely for how they tabulate the votes and how quickly they get them and making sure they declare the right winner. you can mess up a race and go recount for a sheriff. but if you mess up a caucus count, you cannot go back and take back the time magazine cover the candidate was denied. host: in addition to potential miss counts, everyone worries about hacking. what has the state done technology wise to fortify themselves against hacking? david: both parties are trying to have secure systems. they have created apps that will be used to count results and report it. more importantly, they have backup systems. so there will not be a short count. happened in 1980 when george h w bush defeated ronald reagan in iowa and the reagan people thought they got cheated because the computers went down. when bush was ahead. bush people say they went back and verified it and we did w

will recall it was an issue that came up during another famous campaign during ronald reagan and walter mondale >> i will not make age an issue. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> doug, is biden coming off with that same kind of swagger and competent of reagan? or is this sounding more like desperation from a candidate trailing pete buttigieg in the polls? >> we will soon see, but joe biden cannot come in, you know, fourth. he can't lose out to elizabeth warren. he's about two points ahead of her now. he has to leave new hampshire as one of the big three along with sanders and buttigieg. by the time they get to south carolina, joe biden is sitting pretty there right now. it's a state with 60% african-americans in the democratic primary there, and so biden looks good. if he could come in third and then win there, i think he thinks this is his formula to success. there's a latino population in nevada that likes joe biden, union in nevada. so i think biden learned the lesson of iowa. i can't come in fourth.

senator gary hart defeated walter mondale. our piece of video from the video library. i will show you a bit from our first visit to new hampshire. [video clip] guest: great. >> i cannot believe you are endorsing ronald reagan with your newspaper. i think it is an insult to the democrats. even if you pick the worst democrat, i would feel a lot better about it than i would feel picking a republican. >> i am not going to apologize for our paper endorsing reagan. really, i apologize for the democrats who can't come up with anybody better than the pack of eight to nominate. guest: wow. who was that? host: minus the mustache these days. guest: is that steve scully? host: the reason i showed that clip is when we were there in 1984, we would go into the diners and we were the only camera there. now, it is a scrum and cameras from all over the world and all kinds of media. when did that change, that so many people started covering it? host: i think it was a little earlier than 1984, but not to the degree that it is now. i couldn't put a date on it. i know that in 1980, before r

minnesota a translated directlyo becoming president, i would have grown up under the presidency of walter mondale is different. warren: this is not right. name.rstand she forgot a it happens. it happens to everybody on this stage. look, you want to ask about whether or not you understand trade policy with mexico? have at it. and if you get it wrong, man, you ought to be held accountable for that. you want to ask about the econonomy and you get it wrong? you ought to be held accountable. you want to ask about a thousand different issues and you get it wrong? you ought to be held accountable. but let's just be clear. missing a name all by itself does not indicate that you do not understand what's going on. and i just think this is unfair. amy: so that was senator elizabeth warren. before that, former south bend mayor pete buttigieg. and of course, senator amy klobuchar. ana maria archila, your response to her forgetting? also, tom steyer, the billionaire, presidential candidate, also said he could name stuckr amlo's clubs listen, we're not talking about a country far away from here. we're talking a

as another famous minnesota politician, walter mondale, told us, klobuchar has drive and grit and getsne. how far that will take her in this latest challenge remains to be seen. >> randi, the reporter you spoke with, does he have any predictions or thoughts on super tuesday and how klobuchar may do in minnesota? >> he certainly does, anderson, given her landslide victories in her senate races you'd think he'd say probably more of the same. after covering her for ten-plus years, he actually sees a weak spot. he does not think it's a guarantee she'd win in minnesota on super tuesday. that's because senator bernie sanders is very popular there. he beat hillary clinton in minnesota in 2016, as you recall. plus this time around he says there are a lot of other options and the grassroots on the left he says is not klobuchar's political profile. plus it's also worth noting, anderson, that he also points out that the two most prominent african-american politicians in minnesota are supporting someone else other than klobuchar. both representative ilhan omar and keith ellison who's now minnesota

minnesota translated directly to becoming president, i would have grown up under the presidency of walter mondaleish everyone was as perfect as you, pete, but let me tell you what it's like to be in the arena. >> i'd like to talk about who we're running against, a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse faced lesbians. and no, i'm not talking about donald trump. i'm talking about mayor bloomberg. >> we're not going to throw out capitalism. we tried that. other countries tried that. it was called communism and it just didn't work. >> i'm the only one on this stage that actually got anything done on health care, okay? >> joining us now maria tracy kumar, and jason johnson, professor of politics and media at morgan state university. he's an msnbc political analyst. maria theresa not only did the contributions come in but we don't know how many votes got mailed in today in various states because the answer was in last night's debate for voters who were wondering who to vote for? >> that's exactly right and i was inside the debate hall last night, and i have to tell you that was the first tim

senator gary hart defeated vice president walter mondale.iece of video is a little self-serving. from the video library. i will show you a bit from our first visit to new hampshire. joseph: great. [video clip] >> i cannot believe you are endorsing ronald reagan with your newspaper. and i think that it is sort of an insult to the democrats. even if you pick the worst democrat, i would feel a lot better about it than if you were picking a republican. >> i am not going to apologize for our paper endorsing reagan. really, i apologize for the democrats who can't come up with anybody better than the pack eight to nominate. joseph: wow. who was that? susan: minus the mustache these days. joseph: is that steve scully? susan: no. that's you. the reason i showed that clip is when we were there in 1984, we would go into the diners and we were the only camera there. now, it is a scrum, and cameras from all over the world and all kinds of media. when was the dividing point? when did that change, that so many people started covering it? joseph: i think it

but in 1984 the party did choose walter mondale who had been carter's vp.out intensity and passion. who is the candidate of passion for the party? and if that candidate of passion doesn't end up being the nominee, will those people who were passionately committed to the loser rally around the winner and help the party win in november? that was a question in 1980, and that may be, i don't know, a question in 2020. >> so much of that 1980 race did center around the iranian hostage crisis and ended up proving fatal to carter. how did carter try to strike that balance between bringing the hostages home and rewinning the white house? >> president carter is remembered as being one of the best ex-presidents in the u.s. watch how he deals with the hostage crisis and ask yourself, whose interests did he put first, the americans and the hostages or those of himself? i think the answer is clear, sacrificed his own interests. >> thanks very much, tim naftali, we'll be watching, i appreciate it. >>> "the race for the white house" starts right now. thanks for being with

advantage he knows what the questions will be and you remember in 1984 when ronald reagan debated walter mondale he knew that question was coming about age he answered it brilliantly bloomberg knows the questions are going to come on racism on sexism as the previous reporter mention and there's no excuse for him not to have very short funny or emotional. soundbites to put those questions to rest let's talk a little bit about joe biden as we said there he ended the rice as a frontrunner but now according to this latest royce's a source paul is now it's just the team to send i mean how important is this debate for him. this is the last hurrah for most if so he's got to somehow get through it make sure he knows he's in nevada he's got to not make a major blunder even the tiniest blunder would be the end of it for him it's going to be hard for him but if he can lay a glove on bloomberg or on sanders then there's the possibility of. a brokered convention i don't expect that that sort of gets baked in it's like the stock market people anticipate what will happen and they see one of them is going to be

walter mondale stepping up ronald reagan won't tell you, i will, taxes are going up. it didn't do him very well in the election, won one state, it's dangerous when you're talking raising taxes. neil: it didn't hurt bill clinton, did it? >> he did and he ordinary the capital gains tax and gave recovery because of that. neil: i want to thank you. in the meantime the debate is on. no doubt joe biden and others candidate are going to respond to this. if they want to give much credence to michael bloomberg and advance his time. connell mcshane following that very, very closely and in liberty, iowa. we're trying to get to as many event as we can, including former vice-president joe biden. and elizabeth warren. and trying to get a sense of what the voters are thinking. and we did hear from biden supporters about other candidates in the field moving too far to the left. we heard a lot when we were speaking about before this event started that they lined up to see the former vice-president about electable, the ability to beat president trump. i find it facenating talking to a

interesting, the line that ronald reagan famously used to beat jimmy carter and when he was up against walter mondale, are you better off than you were? people doubted it in 1980. they were convinced of this 1984. how important are surveys like this. >> the gallup survey is important, neil. i used this one in the paper to estimate i thought trump would win in the election in 2016. i went through all the backdate at that. this is one key element i used in 2016. i think it is really strong now. i think it reflects very well on the president. i think his chances looking at these numbers are being reflected in those numbers. neil: you know, one of the things i got traveling to iowa and new hampshire, art, for democrats, if the issues are giving you lemons, make a different lemonade. they won't focus so much on the economy that is doing better, there is no way you can quibble with it, i wouldn't call them wedge issues but they're focusing on things like health care and issues that won them back the house and that strategy they're convinced will pay off. what do you think? >> i don't think so. they have go

the first one i covered in 1984, everyone expected walter mondale to win, he was upset by gary hart.edictions are really dumb to make in the new hampshire primary. that i think is consistent. what is a little bit different is that the passions seem more divided among more candidates than you usually see. often it comes down to two or at most three who are in the hunt. and here there are more, although there are going to be some losers. a lot of people have a lot at stake, not just amy klobuchar and andrew yang whose campaigns will end if they don't outperform expectations. but elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, who are from neighboring states, if they underperform, that's a real problem for both of their campaigns. if bernie sanders doesn't win the new hampshire primary, as a number of people expect him to do, he's got a problem. everybody's been talking about how strong he is, but he has a problem if they have not brought pete buttigieg to earth in the last couple of days. >> you know what's interesting, as i look at more recent history, new hampshire has done a really good job of

minnesota translated directly to becoming president, i would have grown up upped the presidency of walter mondale is different. and the reason i think we need to talk about washington experience is we should ask what that experience has led to. experience and certainly tenure is not always the same thing as judgement. if we're going to talk about votes in the senate in washington, let's talk about it. >> let's talk about a major policy -- >> next question -- next question. hello, hello, hello, thank you. senator warren and mayor bloomberg, this question is for you. i want to talk about -- maybe -- >> can i defend senator klobuchar for a moment? this is not right. i understand that she forgot a name. it happens. it happens to everybody on this stage. look, you want to ask about whether or not you understand trade policy with mexico? have at it. and if you get it wrong, man, you ought to be held accountable for that. you want to ask about the economy and you get it wrong, you ought to be held accountable. you want to ask about a thousand different issues and you get it wrong, you ought to be held a

minnesota translated directly to becoming president, i would have grown up under the presidency of walter mondale. this is different. the reason that i think we need to talk about washington experience is that we should ask what that experience has led to. experience and certainly tenure is not always the same thing as judgment. if we're going to talk about votes in the senate -- >> let's talk about a major policy -- no, no, no. >> whoa, whoa! thank you. senator warren and mayor bloomberg. this question is for you. >> i, can i just defend senator klobuchar? this is not right. i understand she forgot a name. it happens to everybody on the stage. look, you want to ask about whether or not you understand trade policy with mexico? have at it. if you get it wrong, you ought to be held accountable. you want to ask about autonomy, you ought to be held accountable. you want to ask about a thousand different issues and you get it wrong, you ought to be held accountable. let's be clear. missing a name all by itself does not indicate that you do not understand what is going on. >> you're right. you're right

it happened when i was here in walter mondale.to beat him in the primary. mondale was the unquestioned frontrunner until that moment. we don't know whether amy klobuchar can attract the bulk of the undecided support. it would be a huge boost for her and the upset story. new hampshire helps to win. if you beat expectations in a major way, that -- you come out with kind of a win. bill clinton did that. mccarthy did that in 1968. he didn't beat lyndon johnson in the primary but made a strong showing but johnson eventually withdrew from the race. if klobuchar is that person and can do that she would get a huge boost. >> ed: the flip side is not doing well in new hampshire and coming in below expectations. if joe biden finishes fourth or fifth how does he continue to make the case on electability that he is the most likely person to beat donald trump? >> i think it would be extremely difficult for him, ed. i think he shows support in south carolina but these results from the early couple states the end to slingshot their way affecting

instead of nominating john glenn who may have stood a chance against reagan they nominated walter mondaleale lost in historic landslides. the left is taking over the democratic party. they will nominate the most left-wing candidate that guaranties trump's re-election. i'm not sure a guarranty. the party is a one-trick pony. the party of impeachment. donald trump has got the con could my. the american people pay not like donald trump but they love their 401(k)s. this will all help his re-election this year. charles: really appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thanks, charles. charles: mike bloomberg unveiled his social security plan. lauren, what's in it? lauren: automatic contributions for everyone. as well as a government match for low-income workers. a new minimum benefit so that all recipients are above the poverty line. a cost of living adjustment. it is more in line what senior citizens, elderly really need. how does he pay for all of this? higher taxes. increasing payroll taxes and increasing income cap. charles: increasing payroll tax? >> i believe that was one -- charles: that i

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guy who promises to raise your taxes, and the last guy to do that, i'm old enough to remember walter mondale, he won one state out of 50, his own in 1984. stuart: wasn't ronald reagan who turned to him and said there he goes again? or did he say that to jimmy carter? >> i'm not going to allow my opponent's youth and inexperience, right, to -- he said i don't want age to become a part of this. people will think he's talking about himself and he turned it on mondale. that's the only thing you remember from that debate. stuart: that was humor. he won the debate and i think that won him a second term. >> that's exactly right. you remember one thing from these things and it's usually some sort of zinger that doesn't seem scripted. none of these candidates can handle that. stuart: i have never seen bernie sanders smile. never seen him laugh in genuine fashion. >> he got a little rattled last night. he got booed in the audience and he said really, really. stuart: how dare you. where are the comrades to support me. thank you, jeff. good to see you. good stuff. >>> now let's change subject completely

alan cranston and walter mondale, and john glenn. it was a big field that year. was very fortunate to get to see many of those candidates. >> successful democrats who won the presidency -- bill clinton. what -- where were you then and what do you remember about that race? sen. shaheen: he was the comeback kid. i had supported bob carey, but i was not very involved because i was focused on my race for the state senate. i did not get too involved in that campaign. about 2000 eight, barack obama and hillary clinton? sen. shaheen: i did not endorse anyone because i was running for the senate in 2008. hillary surprised everyone in 2008 because barack obama won the iowa caucus when no one thought he could. hillary did not win and everyone said, "obama is coming into new hampshire, he will win new hampshire." hillary won new hampshire by three points. key to new hampshire is organization. you have one statewide, you understand the democratic -- won statewide, you understand it. what does that mean? sen. shaheen: the key to new hampshire and why the presidential primary

alan cranston and walter mondale and john glenn. you know it was a big field that year, and i was very fortunate to get to see many of those candidates. >> let me ask you about two other campaigns successful , democrats who won the presidency -- bill clinton. where were you then and what do you remember about that race? sen. shaheen: well, bill clinton was the comeback kid. i had supported bob carey, but i was not very involved because i was again focused on my race for the state senate and what i needed to do for that job. i did not get too involved in that campaign. >> what about 2008, barack obama and hillary clinton? sen. shaheen: again, i did not endorse anyone, because i was running for the senate in 2008. it was a hard-fought race. i remember that hillary surprised everyone in 2008, because barack obama won the iowa caucuses, when people did not think he would be able to do that. hillary did not win, and everyone said, "obama is coming into new hampshire, he will win new hampshire." and that did not happen. hillary won new ha