he said walter reuther comes in here to see hubert and says -- if you don't do something we're going to burn the cities down. he said reuther, the head of the united auto workers, had a crippled hand because it had been shot during a demonstration. always kept his right hand in his pocket. he said hubert kept smiling with while reuther is talking and he's trying to figure out how can i get walter reuther out to take his hand out of his pocket so i can shake hands with him. reuther comes in here and tells me if we don't find a way it rebuild the cities, we're going to burn them down. i'm sitting in here, i'm smiling, i'm looking at that hand, trying to get his hand out of his pocket so i can cut his balls off. he said that's the difference between hubert and me. >> but i think we have to point out, though, that the relationship between the president and a vice president is an inherently difficult relationship. here is someone who is waiting for you to exit the stage. someone who may have been your rival, someone who may have been equally distinguished in public life. barbara bush compl