it's the same thing as in the walter scott case. i'm not sure they saw him as a human being. that is the problem. he had to be deranged. something has to be wrong with him. but more importantly, a law enforcement officer did not see him as a human being. that's the problem. that's what happens when we see the instances more and more. >> why a year before charges? >> two questions, one, what in god's name he was thinking that he thought it was okay to shoot more than the for two times. but much more importantly is how dare they take 400 days to say that that case which they had from day one. >> they had a murder from day one. >> the sandra bose case they charged that guy in ten days with that -- >> live pictures now from the streets of chicago. people are gathering there. >> you can't blame the police department. i have investigated before. >> i'm a big democrat. i don't hide it at all. there is an indictment on rahm emanuel. the reason for the frustration. he thought if there was an indictment the streets wouldn't erupt. but he held this tape for 400 days. that's a lack of le

[applause] you know the names and as well as i do whether it's sandra blander michael brown or walter scott or freddie gray or tamir rice or timothy russell. [applause] i do not want to read about and you did not want to read about children being shot because they have a toy gun. [applause] you and i do not want to continue to see over 100 ballots being -- 100 bullets being shot into a car. [applause] now some of you know i am the former mayor of the largest city in the state of vermont, burlington, vermont. [applause] and in that capacity i had the privilege of working with our police department and let me tell you what i think most of you know. most police officers are honest and hard-working and do a very difficult job. [applause] the truth is, it is very hard to be a police officer today. many of them are unpaid -- underpaid and they have crazy schedules, but that may also be very clear and that is when any police officer, like any other public official breaks the law must be held accountable. [applause] so my pledge to you tonight is that no president will work harder than i in ending

walter scott made a move for the officer's taser and the officer shot him in self-defense. the videotape proved that not to be true. and then you have this case where to mr. calvin's point, the city, which knew the information was not true put out a story in the midst, by the way, of a very contentious re-election campaign for the mayor of the city, rob emanuel. this took place in october of last year as rob emanuel is fighting after runoff election against jesus garcia in a campaign in the midst of a lot of discussion around the country about black lives matter. you have city officials -- and mr. calvin is can correct me if i'm wrong -- he was tipped off about the existence of this stay by someone who worked in the city. so there was a knowledge throughout government that this story wasn't true, and yet you had this wholesale effort to sort of confect a story that would justify the shooting. and only the forcing of this videotape out makes the prosecutor act. and it takes her a year to figure out that something was wrong. >> and i would add that that process of maintaining

walter scott, of the men running in the park and shot in the back in the case of sam dubose, i believe those were murders. they were deemed murder. the reason -- the only reason they were deemed murder is because the incidences were caught on video. however, if they had not been caught on video, the murderers would have gotten away with their murder. in the case of air gardener, the case of tamir rice, i believe those were murders, but they were exonerated. amy: other prominent cultural figures have come out in support of quentin tarantino including , mark ruffalo, musician tom morello, native american activist and journalist simon moya-smith, and author joyce carol oates. we will get response from actor and writer viggo mortensen after headlines. former president george hw bush has criticized former vice president dick cheney and former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld over their hawkish reaction to the september 11 attacks in a forthcoming biography. bush is quoted as saying rumsfeld was "an arrogant fellow" and that dick cheney was "iron-ass." the biography, "destiny and power:

streets of ferguson, missouri. 25-year-old freddie gray in a police car in baltimore. 50-year-old walter scott in a park in north charleston, south carolina. >> i can' t breathe, i can' t breathe. karen: 56-year-old eric garner on the corner in staten island. 12-year-old tamir rice in cleveland. the stories stretch across the nation. many gained media attention, while many more may go unreported. each is met with anger and fear. each ignites communities to believe is a broken criminal justice system. each one galvanizes youth to speak up and speak out as what they see against a never-ending prejudice. many worry real change continues to feel out of reach. >> black lives don' t seem to matter because they are being there does not seem to be any type of legal ramification for ending the life of a person of color here in the united states by a police officer, a servant that is supposed to be serving and protecting the community. >> as long as you can continue to racially profile young black men and latinos and young black women, you are going to continue encountering these problems. karen: the vi

on, be it some sort of drug issue that can be thought about from a public health perspective, walter scottwhere the child support system -- and that is not to excuse the officer, but that is there. or a mental health issue which is behind it. i wonder, what your perspective is -- are we at the point where police officers do too much? cathy: you know, policing has been pushing back on that for years and years. really, policing has become -- the analogy, policing has become the drive-through 24-hour mcdonald's of services, because we are the only 24/7, 365 days a year, whenever that crisis hits, or if some thing has to be solved, and when there are not other resources for it, well, the police will handle it. to some extent the community, they don't know who to call, are going to call the police will -- i think there is a lot of things that we in policing try the best we can to train and prepare for, but we know that there is other people who are better providing that service, and if we could get police out of that business, we would. i think that is part of this. we really have to look at la

defending him against a murder michael slager is facing 30 years to life in priion if convictete of walter scott. video of the incident appears to show him firing several times, hitting scott with five shots as he ran away. the lawsuit claims the group dropped his coverage without properly investigating what happened. prosecutors file charges against a former oklahoma sheriff. one charge accuses him of refusing to perform official duties. it's a misdemeanor. this comes after his friend, a reserve deputy, mistakenly shot and killed a man. the deputy thought he was reaching for his taser. overweight children shows early signs of heart disease when they're as young as eight. rerearchers compaaed a group of obese and normal-weight kids. they found that 40 percent of the obese children had thickened muscles surrounding the heart --- which could reduce the heart's pumping ability. new guidelines from the u-s soccer federation now ban players undndr the age of ten from heading the ball. it's an effort to head-off concussions. this isn't the only change. players ages eleven to 13 can only do it during g

michael slager is facing 30 years to life in prison if convicted of murdern the shooting death of walter scott. video of the incident appears to show him firing several times, hitting scott with five shots as he ran away. the lawsuit claims the group dropped his coverage without properly investigating what happened. an olympian isisdemanding he e awarded the gold medal after a report claims his opponent was guilty of drug abuse. he came in second in the 2012 games behind a russian athlete -- one of several found guilty of doping an anti-drug agencc is accusing russian leaders of covering up drug- test results and destroying samples. it's pretty devastating. it the sporting body that should be protecting clean athletes, was looking after the dope cheats. swallow, yeaa, really disappointing to read thht." russia's sports minister denied the allegationk and said there was no evidence. a big change is coming to youth soccer - restricting headers to soccer federation now prohibit players age 10 and younger from eading the ball. the move resolves a class- action lawsuit from parents and players, cha

the walkers got -- the walter scott shooting was an abomination. and it recalls the fact that polices a horrible history in this country. thee is no question that police were able work of slavery and segregation that listed way too long, and this country took a long time to wake up. a lot of people today continue to see policing through that lens and it is understandable. but the fact of the matter is that police has never been more -- that policing has never been more professional. the police are going where people are being victimized and that is in minority communities. brooklyn,d recent in the per capita shooting rate is 81 times higher than in bay ridge, brooklyn, which is just a few miles away. that means the people in 81% higher face and chance of getting shot. the police cannot respond to that without being more heavily deployed in minority neighborhoods. as for the charge that there is no evidence for the ferguson effect, i simply disagree. the evidence is the drop-off in discretionary activities. that is empirically documented. you can he

walter scott. michael brown. eric barner. latanya haggerty. dylan taylor. collar. and venetian ration. nearly everybody knew the first three. the first three were black suspect shot and killed -- killed by white police officers. the next five that only one person knew, they were unarmed suspects shot and killed by black or hispanic officers, but you never hear about them in the media. latanya haggerty was shot and killed by a black female chicago police officer after a pursuit. incident did not make national news and did not set off rioting. still until there was a white 20-year-old consultant city. he was unarmed and shot and killed around the same time as ferguson. he was shot and killed by a hispanic police officer. -- shot and killed by a black -- a black university of alabama police officer. he was naked, no chance he was reaching for something. [laughter] the national media did not report it. what you think the storyline would've been if the officer was white and the man killed was black? giving there would've been one reference to bull connor -- do you think

now, in the case of walter scott who is the man running in the park and was shot in the back and the case of sam dubois, i believe those were murder and they were deemed murder. and the reason and the only reason they were deemed murder because the incidences were caught on video. however, if they had not been caught on video, the murderers would have gotten away with their murder. in the case of eric gardner and the case of that myrrh rice, i believe they're murders and exonerated. >> there's something about that word, obviously, which has set off police unions and many police officers. why do you think? were you surprised by the, frankly, the it have ri ol with which they have responded to those comments? >> yeah. i was surprised. i was under the impression i was an american and that i had 1st amendment rights and there was no problem with me going to an anti-police brutality protest and peeking my mind and just because i was at an anti-police brutality protest doesn't mean i'm anti-police. basically, there was a lot of people at that rally and we were all crying for -- we were cry

i do believe that they were murdered in the case of walter scott who was shot in the back and sam dubose, i believe those were murder and they were deemed murder and the reason and the only reason they were deemed murder was because the incidents were caught on video. >> gavin, does this help? >> does it help the dialogue about police brutality in this country? >> does it help quentin tarantino's case tonight? >> it depends on how you define what his case is. i disagree with him. i don't think all of those cases are murder. i think they are elements of, you know, lethal mistakes and i think we got to be addressing in this country and we have to be addressing racism. i don't agree with the tone of the protest which were generalizing about most police. there are not news stories about the 99.9% of police officers who are out there doing a good job for the rest of us. but at the same time i would also say that i am slightly inspired by quentin tarantino and the fact that he is not doing what so many people in the entertainment industry do which is phony, they get themselves into a scrape th

i'll check the jam cams memememe ♪ >>> officer dined in the murder of walter scott is now suing a policeion. dam cash and cell phone video caught the former officer michael slager shooting and killing scott as he ran away. slager originally told officials he shot scott in self-defense. well now slager is suing the southern state police ben never length association for failing to defend him even though he was up to date on his payments. the association informed slager four days after the shooting he was not entitled to a lawyer. slager facing murder charges. >>> black box from private plane that crashed into an ohio apartment building yesterday is now on its way to washington, d.c. all nine people on board including two pilots and seven members of a florida real estate company died in that fiery crash. investigators say the plane went down about 2 miles from a small airport in akron where it was supposed to land. another pilot who did land safely and was on the same frequency as that plane that crashed says that he heard no destress calls. local police say no one was inside the building w

when we think about the fact that we have the video, if you will of tamir rice, walter scott, laquanusness over the course of these many months, it says to the country as a whole, enough is enough. we have to fundamentally change the culture of policing in this country. we have to bring about serious and substantive reform at both the federal, state, and municipal level. when we think about the chicago police department, consider this. half billion dollars in legal settlements, as a consequence of police conduct. 400 police shootings, 70 fataliti fatalities. only one disciplinary action. >> mr. brooks, i have to ask you, you mentioned it too in those names -- rice, scott, now laquan mcdonald -- when you hear about this and when you see the headlines when it comes to dash cam video shooting of a black man, when it comes to the african american community, is it still shocking, or is there a feeling that sadly enough, we're accustomed to this, it's another one that shouldn't happen? >> there's no normalcy to brutality. every instance of misconduct, every instance in which the humanity o

but there's certain circumstances, let's talk about walter scott in north charleston, where you know,r that shot that man in the back on the videotape he is being charged with murder, right? so calling him a murderer -- >> but he named specific people of officers who were acquitted by the criminal justice system. they did not commit murder, says our system, right or wrong, and he's still calling them murderers. so of course you're going to be a little peeved if you're a cop. >> yeah, you are. but that's also -- people are going to say things like that all the time. people make independent judgments -- i understand the sensitivity but it's also like -- i guess my point is i expected to go to the tape and see him say down with the pigs, all cops are bastards or something of that -- that's what i was expecting. >> my reaction was is that all you've got? you're letting me down. you can do better than that. >> based on the reaction. and it was not that. it does get to -- there is a real sensitivity around that word which i understand. >> yeah. >> but it also seems to me he keeps emphasizin

walter scott, a 40-year-old, executed on tape. and now we have mr.n mcdonald executed on tape. enough is enough. word games will not describe the brutality that we've seen in this video. and people all across the country are outraged and properly so. >> cornell brooks, thank you very much. we will continue the conversation. and we'll see as the justice process does play out. this officer now charged with first-degree murder. thank you very much. >> thank you, poppy. >>> coming up, just moments from now, president obama will step up to this podium. he will deliver a statement to the nation on one of the busiest travel days of the year. we are told that it involves security preparations for the holidays in the wake of the paris attacks. right now he is being briefed by his national security team. stay with us. live coverage from washington next. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutrition

the walkers got -- the walter scott shooting was an abomination. and it recalls the fact that polices a horrible history in this country. thee is no question that police were able work of slavery and segregation that listed way too long, and this country took a long time to wake up. a lot of people today continue to see policing through that lens and it is understandable. but the fact of the matter is that police has never been more -- that policing has never been more professional. the police are going where people are being victimized and that is in minority communities. brooklyn,d recent in the per capita shooting rate is 81 times higher than in bay ridge, brooklyn, which is just a few miles away. that means the people in 81% higher face and chance of getting shot. the police cannot respond to that without being more heavily deployed in minority neighborhoods. as for the charge that there is no evidence for the ferguson effect, i simply disagree. the evidence is the drop-off in discretionary activities. that is empirically documented. you can he

there are also police in two cases, walter scott and were found both guilty of murder. other profession, if you do something violent or, there is a system in place to deal with that i wonder how much of the, this has become very political too, this whole back and forth. and -- >> which it should never be. martha: a question whether or not the police are holding back. you talked, marjorie, about the larger need for discussion about police in general. here's what the president had to say about whether or not we should be concerned that the police might be starting to hold back? it has been called the ferguson effect. here is what the president said. >> we do have to stick with the facts. what we can't do is cherry-pick data or use anecdotal evidence to drive policy or to feed political agendas. if we stick with the facts, and we maintain a effective coordination across federal, state and local agencies, then we're going to continue the hard-fought progress you and so many law enforcement officers made over the past two decades. martha: talks about cherry-picking facts and

walter scott. michael brown. eric warner. latonya hegarty. dylan taylor.il coller, bobby dean. >> nearly everybody knew the first three only one other person in the other five. the first three were black suspect shot and killed killed by white police officers. the next five that only one person knew, they will are armed suspects shot and killed by black or hispanic's but you never heard about them and the national media. latonya latonya hegarty was an honor black the mush on killed by a black female chicago police officer after pursuit. the incident did not make national news or set of rioting. dylan taylor was a white 20-year-old in salt lake city. he was on arm. he was shot and killed about the same time as ferguson incident. and never got the nor variety he was shot and killed by a hispanic police officer. gilbert was the late 18-year-old university south alabama student who was shot and killed by black university police officer. he was naked so there's no chance that he was reaching for something. [laughter] the national media did not report it. now wh

about as that we as a country have downloaded in to our collective memory the video if you will of walter scott mcdonald, and so we had literally playing in our consciousness as a country unarmed african-american men and in the case of tamir rice a child killed on videotape. and so we have an empirical basis for apprehension about the conduct of police departments all across the country. i just came back from minneapolis where we saw jamar clark lose his life, responding to that tragedy. the point being here is this warrior style of policing as opposed to a guardian mode of policing is the challenge. and the fact of the matter is we cannot isolate this to one city. we can't blame it on one police department. we have to respond with a sense of urgency. think about this way. most of the police department in chicago has been called up and put out on the street, if you will. we see this as being on the precipice of a city-wide emergency. what if we were to treat the instances of police misconduct as and ongoing emergency and respond with that sense of urgency? the city of chicago in ten years has s

whether michael brown or kia boyd or eric garner or walter scott or freddie gray or, timothy russell or lester wilkins. i do not want to read about or see and you do not want to read about or see children being shot because they have a toy gun. [cheers and applause] and you and i do not want to continue to see over 100 bullets being shot into a car. [cheers and applause] now, as some of you know i am the former mayor of the largest city in the state of vermont, burlington, vermont. and in that capacity, i had the privilege of working with our police department, and let me tell you what i think most of you know. most police officers are honest and hard-working and do a very difficult job. [cheers and applause] the truth is, it is very hard to be a police officer today. many of them are underpaid, they have crazy schedules. that's a fact. but, but, let me also be very clear, and that is, when any police officer, like any other public official breaks the law, that officer must be held accountable. [cheers and applause] so my pledge to you tonight that no president will work harder than

[inaudible] walter scott [inaudible] can you tell me your sons name again? i say these names because this isn't a bloodless conversation or policy. you need to be aware what we are diss cussing now. i want to repeat the recommendations-my name is nodia [inaudible] activist with electronic frontier foundation and my office is down the street from here and live in san francisco in the mission district and i see police interacting with the public daily. i want to just first of all say that i agrie where the other suggestions you have gotten, the 2 suggestions there needs to be a clear path for public access to the the video and no review the video before a statement is given when there is a serious incident [inaudible] body camera recommendation policy board this is something we looked at a lot and the fact is body cameras can be a useful tool for accountability but they need to have very strisk policies. striking the balance isn't easy and without policies enplace body cameras can be used for [inaudible] and police cover up. in addition to the concerns about t

the walkers got -- the walter scott shooting was an abomination. and it recalls the fact that polices a horrible history in this country. thee is no question that police were able work of slavery and segregation that listed way too long, and this country took a long time to wake up. a lot of people today continue to see policing through that lens and it is understandable. but the fact of the matter is that police has never been more -- that policing has never been more professional. the police are going where people are being victimized and that is in minority communities. brooklyn,d recent in the per capita shooting rate is 81 times higher than in bay ridge, brooklyn, which is just a few miles away. that means the people in 81% higher face and chance of getting shot. the police cannot respond to that without being more heavily deployed in minority neighborhoods. as for the charge that there is no evidence for the ferguson effect, i simply disagree. the evidence is the drop-off in discretionary activities. that is empirically documented. you can he

be that with walter scott where you start with the child support system.hat is so often a mental health issue which is behind it. i wonder what your perspective is. are we asking our police officers too much? >> they have been pushing back on that for years. thely, policing has become drive through 20 for our mcdonald's of services. 47 365 days ay 20 year out in the community, available when crisis hits. when there is not other resources, it is the police will handle it. to some extent, the community, if they do not know what the call, do call the police. i think there is a lot of things we in policing try the best we can to train and prepare for, but we know there are other people who are better for providing that service. if we could get police out of that business, we would. i think that is part of this. we have to look at laws, enforcement, enforcement versus regulation in some cases. you don't need a badge and a gun to regulate some things. >> can you make that concrete? >> there are some things that are violations of regulations where officers are se

i would suggest to this committee that we cannot look at a video of walter scott being shot in that park in north charleston and a police officer appear to go back and drop a taser next to him. we cannot watch samuel dubois killed as he was in cincinnati. we cannot watch police officers -- a police officer barrel into a pool party of teens and do what they did and suggest that we don't have a problem. so we have an opportunity. we also know what the police report said and what the video showed. we know that if we didn't have that video, we would have all believed the police report because we are hardwired to believe the police because we do understand the difficult job that they do and the challenges they face. but now america has been able to see a different reality. it's a reality that's existed in communities that i represent over decades. it's incumbent upon us in this democracy to get our hands around this problem and to recognize that when the state -- when agents of the state who we have empowered and we have given a gun and a shield and pepper spray and a taser, and we have autho

in north charleston, south carolina where there was almost immediate resolution of the case of walter scott. this was a case where a 52 -year-old man that out of his car and ran away from an officer who was pullingwas pulling them over for a minor traffic violation is he was afraid he would be arrested for child support issues. the officer squares up and shoot some and then walks over to him and appears to drop his taser on the body and then tells dispatcher that he foughtthought walter scott over his taser and had to shoot them. no way was attempted to be rendered. in fact, they tackledfact, they tackled his sister to the ground like you tackle a football player. when she sat down and wrote it and her staff told african-americans that our lives are worth nothing. if you can follow a young teenage boy you as his headphones on, if you can follow him and and say he is the aggressor and shoot and kill him and not face any legal consequences, then the cdc chair that means black lives have no value. it did not start with the police incident. it started with someone acting a police like fashion t

walter scott. anything? some of you. michael brown. okay. eric garner. latonya haggerty.dylan taylor. deal caller. anthony -- nearly every new the first three. only one person knew the other five. the first three were black suspect shot and killed come on on -- not killed, shot by white police officer. the next five that only one person knew they were unarmed suspect shot and killed by a black or hispanic police officers but you never heard about the shootings in the national media. let me describe them. latonya haggerty was an unarmed black field shot and killed by a black female chicago police officer after a pursuit. the incident did make national news. it didn't set off in writing to build and it was a white 20 oh salt lake city man, unarmed, shot and killed about the same time as the ferguson incident. but it never got the notoriety of ferguson figure shot and killed by hispanic police officer. gilbert called was a white ache in your universe of south alabama student who was shot and killed by a black university south university campus police officer. he was naked so

i would suggest to this committee that we cannot look at a video of walter scott being shot in that park in north charleston and a police officer appear to go back and drop a taser next to him. we cannot watch samuel dubois killed as he was in cincinnati. we cannot watch police officers -- a police officer barrel into a pool party of teens and do what they did and suggest that we don't have a problem. so we have an opportunity. we also know what the police report said and what the video showed. we know that if we didn't have that video, we would have all believed the police report because we are hardwired to believe the police because we do understand the difficult job that they do and the challenges they face. now america has been able to see a different reality. it's a reality that's existed in communities that i represent over decades. it's incumbent upon us in this democracy to get our hands around this problem and to recognize that when the state -- when agents of the state who we have empowered and we have given a gun and a shield and pepper spray and we have authorized them to tak

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on, be it some sort of drug issue that can be thought about from a public health perspective, walter scottchild support system -- and that is not to excuse the officer, but that is their. for a mental health issue which is behind it. i wonder, what your perspective is -- are we at the point where police officers do too much? cathy: you know, policing has been pushing back on that for years and years. really, policing has become -- the analogy, policing has become the drive-through 24-hour mcdonald's of services, because 7, are the only 20 47, -- 24/ 365 days a year, whenever that crisis hits, or if some thing there be solved, and when are not other resources for it, well, the police will handle it. to some extent the community, they don't know who to call, are going to call the police will stop yes, i think there is a lot of things that we in policing try the best we can to train and prepare for, but we know that there is other people who are better providing that service, and if we could get police out of that business, we would. i think that is part of this. we really have to look at law

i would suggest to this committee that we cannot look at a video of walter scott being shot in that parkorth charleston and a police officer appear to go back and drop a taser next to him. we cannot watch samuel dubose killed as he was in cincinnati. we cannot watch police officers -- a police officer barrel into a pool party of teens and do what they did and suggest that we don't have a problem. we have an opportunity. we also know what the police report says and what the video showed. we know that if we didn't have that video, we would have all believed the police report, because we are hard wired to believe the police, because we do understand the difficult job that they do and the challenges they face. now america has been able to see a different reality. it's a reality that's existed in communities that i represent over decades. it's incumbent upon us in this democracy to get our hands around this problem and to recognize that when the state -- when agents of the state who we of given a gun and a shield and pepper spray and we have authorized them to take life on our behalf where ne

tried to take his case to the we shouldn't just buy into that only to be understood by the he is walter scott dead running away and the case was dropped by his body. i think that's part of the problem that we have. white america one of the things we can do and one of things barack obama can just stop postcard the idea civil rights. there were fight for racial justice did not happen in the '60s. it's an ongoing and ever present struggle. it's not a thing in the past. it's something that happened this morning. if we can stop think about it from something from the past and start empathizing with our fellow citizens who can syndicate to the corner store for being afraid, not some local person robbing them of the police. that is a serious and in my condition for our society. if you have a substantial number of citizens afraid of the police. on washington, d.c. stated, yes, it has affected the with the majority of black a community. the political self interest is to diminish the number of people who can vote against to engage out of a job which page 174 grand a year. we have too many disincentives