more videos of black men running from the police and still getting shot -- so you think about walter scottbut the data actually shows that black victims of police violence are more likely to be unarmed than any other victim of police violence. >> i agree with you -- like, words matter. so it seems to me that the movement can continue even while acknowledging that it might have been wrong about the words in that case. >> yeah, i don't -- you know, i don't know if "wrong" is the right way to think about it. i think that, as someone who believed the witnesses, we were saying as a statement to the police that, like, "hands up, don't shoot" -- we said it, we chanted it, we tweeted it -- as a reminder to them that, like, even when we're not armed, you consider our bodies to be weapons, and we are calling that out. >> what is the case for hope on the other side of freedom? >> what is the case for hope? you know, i think about hope as a belief that our tomorrows can be better than our todays, and i take that with me everywhere i go. and i wanted to write about not only about a diagnosis of where w