that, that conversation or any conversation like that never came up again. >> in august 1991, wanda holloway's began. >> the challenge for prosecutors is that wanda never says the words kill him. it's always the brother in law who's referring to how to do it and what's going to happen. and she responds, and she's answering the questions. but that became a critical question in the case. >> i've gotten in touch with someone for you. okay, but i need to know exactly what you want. >> when you heard the tapes and you've described them as pretty hateful things that your mom said on there, what was your reaction? >> i was devastated. i thought, oh, she's for sure like going away for a long time now. knowing her and knowing how she can be. i had a different perspective, but just thinking of it from someone that didn't know her and didn't know how she was, how horribly awful it sounded. >> did you think she was guilty? >> i think she was guilty of going to my uncle and even having this conversation with him. as far as do i think that it was ever going to happen? no, i don't. >> but still today, shanna