. >> stuart, wanita did it perfectly.campaign need to explain project 2025 to voters so it really lands? >> well, i think there's different areas. you want to talk about economic one, it's really pretty simple. he wants to cut taxes on millionaires, he wants to raise your taxes to make up the difference. it's not a very collocated analysis. i think people perhaps grasp that. people are never really willing to believe that someone will cut their taxes. they're always much more willing to believe their taxes will go up. we saw this in all these republican campaigns, they made all these ads about tax cuts, they never work that well. the idea that you would stop taxes from going up with something that people would vote for. you have these cuts in medicaid, this stuff is tremendously popular in america. there is a reason that donald trump does not want to talk about project 2025. because if you test that stuff, a test about 20-82 the bad, and if you test the 100 day agenda that the president laid out in michigan and the vice p