grabbed by people who didn't want to solve the problem who didn't want to govern but rather wantedto hyperbolizeand raise reason for the tax. i think there's a tremendous amount of frustration in congress especially on the senate on the republican side of the aisle with that sort of approach. i think most people in the republican senate and in the democrat senate pretty much really fought conscientious people, they wanted to solve it and figure out a practical way. what they need is presidential leadership to give them to allow them to go forward. but the president i have to say even though he saying things like that he's got to be in the room. this is the problem on both sides of the aisle here. leadership was not exercised by the president and the republican party allowed the microphones to be controlled by folks who really had no interest in governing. >> rose: do you believe it wasn't in the room because of the principle he enunciated because he thought he could not, that he didn't want the principle to be established that he had to be negotiating the debt ceiling every time there was a cris