and i just -- i didn't know want to -- i didn't know what to do other than just -- i just wantef himas much as i was suffering. >> and yet you became involved in working with prisoners. why? >> after about 4 1/2 years of feeling that way, i became so exhausted, itouldn't do anymore. it takes a lot of energy to hate like that. and i wore myself out. i couldn't do it ymore. and i needed a different path.an i was -- a lot of things happened in between, but i was introduced to insight prison project. they invited me to go insidea o rison and share my story with people who had committed murder. and i thought, ooh, this is my chance, i'm going to tell them, you know, that all of the consequences of their actions. and when i sat there with people who had caused this level of harm, and then told them my story, and they -- they cried with me, they were -- you could tell that there was something going on there that was so far beyond what i thought was possible. and i wasm looking at transf people and their stories helped heal me. >> what is the single biggest life lesson which you've learnek t