war can be stopped. war is a human invention. we invented it, and we can set it aside and, indeed, most of the world already has. except when the u.s., you know, coerces people into some kind of phony coalition. so, and this attitude that we are not tough enough if we do not resort immediately to some kind of military force, although we're now turning around and calling putin barbaric for trying to do the same thing. in this has got to go. this has really got to go. and if there are any lessons to be learned from the this war, i think that's it. we have to stop that nonsense. >> okay. we've only got a few minutes left, so right over here. >> yeah. several years ago i read a book called achilles of vietnam, i don't know if you know of it. it's about trauma, and somebody went through and looked at the parts ascribing achilles experience, and he ended up having classing symptoms of some kind of post-traumatic stress. so war is old, as you said earlier. in your experience in talking to these soldiers and their families whether it was

please give them a big round of applause. >> out of the 24 vietnam war korean war, and world war ii veterans honored tuesday, more than half were hispanic, in the medal of honor history just 61 hispanic men received the award out of the more than 3,000 medals awarded how a third of the total were given during the civil war. three went to hispanic servicemen during that war. last year, more than 150,000 hispanics were on active duty and in 2011, they made up nearly 17% of all new recruits. they came from mexico, and puerto rico, from chicago, and los angeles, and spanish harlem, farm tunes across the southwest, they fought in all branches of the service, in every war since the civil war, 150 years ago, the latino story has been part of america's story since the sen teen century, but we don't often talk about the contributions to the defense of the country. today's medal of honor ceremony highlighted their valor and that of others joining us to look at the president's actions today and take a look back are from mashville tennessee professor of history, in our washington studio, danny lopez, pr

how will we pay for world war ii? 1960.president eisenhower talks of paying off the national debt, the economy stumbles into a recession. how can a budget surplus hurt the economy? 1999. huge deficits turn to surplus. what would the government do with the money? almost every year the federal government spends more money than it takes in. year after year, the tide of red ink rolls on. "federal deficits: can we live with them?" we'll investigate that question with the help of economic analyst richard gill on this edition of "economics u$a." i'm david schoumacher. most of us have been taught that to spend more money than we earn is to court financial disaster, but the federal government seems to play by a different set of rules. almost every year the country runs a deficit. yet we're told that deficit is necessary, even beneficial. but deficits piled one on top of another create a growing national debt. and the interest payments on that debt add more dollars to the next year's deficit. during a five-year span back in the 1940s

we've been at war for 1 years constantly. two wars. we're out of one war, iraq. and we're coming out of the longest war we've ever been, afghanistan. not unlike after every war the united states has been in, you reset your posture. you reset your assets. you reset your whole enterprise based on the new realities and based on preparing that institution for the challenges of the future. to answer your question, how do you adjust to the dangerous complicated world that we're in, we've increased, for example, cyberassets. increased special operations. we're focusing on readiness, capability. our capacity. our ability to do the things that we need to do in the strategic interests of the strategic guidance that the president laid out in 2012. >> schieffer: you say we're coming out of two wars, yes, that's true. but we're not necessarily coming away victories just coming out of those wars, the enemy is still out there. >> of course the threats are out there. of course the threats are shifting. cyberis a good example. five years ago there wasn't the same focus the realit

the war of 1812 the mexican war of the spanish american war and the two world wars. presidents have on their own sent the nation into all the other wars and clear violations of the constitution and george washington was the first president to do so. unfortunately he set a precedent that any of his successors of often used recklessly. unlike those successors when washington went to war when thousands of american citizens lives were clearly at stake. present washington establish what i call in my book seven pillars of residential power not provided by the constitution. the first four pillars of power where the powers over executive appointments, foreign affairs, government finances and defense and military affairs. razink of the three pillars almost cost washington his life. again i don't want to spoil my book for you but of these three powers one is the power to issue presidential proclamations or executive orders. the constitution says nothing about pop donations. it doesn't give the president the right to issue any for good reason. presidential proclamation or execu

professor oaks why did lincoln start the civil war?because they shot first and you don't mess with lincoln. >> jon: we touched on this earlier, too. this is an interesting question. if lincoln wanted to purchase and free every slave in the united states, how much would that have cost? how much? mr. president, let's go with lincoln. lincoln how much would it have cost? >> it would have cost $3 billion and keep in mind i only carry five dollar bills. [ laughter ] no answer? there were about four million slaves. >> four million slaves. >> jon: judge, do you have an answer. >> the numbers are equivocal because you are trying to talk about it in modern terms but in 1860 terms i'll agree with the number $3 billion less than half of what it cost to fight the civil war and rebuild the south. >> jon: professor what is the bill? >> $3 billion is correct but it should be noted that if you want to buy all the factories, railroads and banks in the country at that time it would have only cost you $2.5 billion. the slaves were by far the largest conc

the war will end, no one wants perpetual war. there are ambiguities that entered into the conversation which right now are simply unhelpful because al qaeda still thinks it is that war and i think we are still at war. there are parts of the executive branch, the military to think they are at war and i think going back to the question of legal strategy some of the conundrums we made for ourselves about the tension, about surveillance are resolved if you consider that we are in fact still in a stake of war with al qaeda. some of those problems get quite clear. we had a great deal of rights as a belligerent against this sub state organization which we can exercise in that respect. last thing i want to say is there is of course a leader of the opposition. it is estranged thing our president almost never mentions ayman al-zarqawi but i think he should. the document published by the white house in june of 2011 explicitly says in two places that osama bin laden is the only leader that al qaeda ever had and since he had just been killed,

just think of our history, the revolutionary war, the civil war, world war ii. these young men and women, and soon my grandchildren, in some important way and some profound way, are being deprived of their birthright. learning something more about their country, who we are, why we are here, what are the ideas they created this free people. the man who conceived this prize aimed to remedy this situation, knowing their history, i think they probably will. they are historians of the first order whose careers have fueled in large part their love of country. josiah bunting, president of the harry frank guggenheim foundation, and louis lerman, co-chairman of the board of the guggenheim-lehrman institute of american history. josiah bunting has written six highly acclaimed books and edited a couple others. he is now finishing his major opus, the life of george catholic marshall, a soldier, general, statesmen, and a great american. louis lerman, author of the wonderful lincoln at peoria, constitutes half of the dynamic duo that build the irreplaceable, indispensable gild

, the civil war, world war ii. these young men and women and soon my grandchildren, and some important and profound way are being deprived of their birth right. learning something more about their country. who we are, why we are here. what are the ideas that created this free people. the man who conceived this prize aims to remedy the situation. knowing their history, i think that they probably will. they are historians of the first order whose careers have fueled in large part their love of country. josiah bunting, president of the guggenheim-lehrman, and louis lehrman, cochairman of guggenheim-lehrman of american history. josiah bunting has written six highly acclaimed books and edited to others. he is now finishing his major opus, the life of george marshall. a soldier, a general, and the statesman, and a great american. louis lehrman constitutes half of the dynamic duo that built the irreplaceable and indispensable lerman institute. the other half being richard gilder, who i do not believe is here this evening.

with how war works.this didn't start because we thought you know afghanistan has got the (bleep) endist stick for a while now. what say we do them a solid? it started because there was this guy, had a beard, sort of an (bleep) you wouldn't give him back. that's kind of what weapon went there for. why we stayed ten years, that's anybody's guess but the point we're trying to make is war is ♪ [ speaking russian ] ♪ ♪ i have no idea what you're saying, but count me in! ♪ but count me in! four-time mvp. back-to-back championships. laying down monster dunks like this one, night after night. wait, wait a second. shouldn't we enjoy this high-definition jam... on a screen that's actually high-definition? 5.7-inches of hd boo-yah. or... 4.0-inches of non hd, lebron's literally running away from this phone. and would you look at that, the galaxy note 3 comes with a handy little s-pen. no s-pen hidin' in this other phone. believe me, i've checked. with the note 3, a dunk like this can be immortalized... customized.

military and intelligence agencies after the war. i focus on these men because i found them to be particularly unique and interesting and somewhat nefarious on varying degrees. and i think it's important to also realize that whenever you're reporting a story like this, it's about riding on the heels of many important journalists and historians who have come before. so while i do bring lots of new information to the table, academics also have been involved in unearthing this story over the decades. but i think now there's really a light cast on operation paperclip that ahas not been shown before. the story for me began when i was reporting this book, "area 51." and when i was working on that, i came across these two nazi aircraft designers named walter and rymar horton. and they were working on this aircraft which looks a lot like the b-2 bomber. hitler's weapons were very interesting to the allies during the war and immediately after. i found out when i was researching the horton brothers that he had a boss, and when he was at the li

no more war!>> in my country, in britain, we had more than 1 million people demonstrating on the streets of london against this war. the opposition to british participation in the war was absolutely immense. >> british prime minister tony blair's government like its u.s. counterpart denies vigorously that overthrowing saddam hussein is about oil. >> let me first of all deal with the conspiracy theory idea that this is somehow to do with oil. there is no way, whatever, if oil were the issue, that it would not be infinitely similar to cut a deal with saddam who i'm sure will be delighted to give us access to as much oil as he wanted if he could carry on building weapons of mass destruction. >> britain, two major oil companies, bp and shell. they were asked, have you asked the british government for in relation to the iraq war? the oil companies and blair government said we haven't talked about it. absolutely no meetings on this subject. so i managed to get documents which recorded five meetings that

war. coming out strongly against the iraq war before the 2006 election. he said because of that terrible miscalculation by nancy pelosi, there was no chance that the democrats would win the house in 2006. democrats not only won the house in 2006 making nancy pelosi speaker, they also won the senate that year. that same year, bill kristol was promoting sarah palin as the way the republicans could win the white house, he also said that barack obama, "is not going to beat hillary clinton in a single democratic primary. i will predict that right now." in fact, barack obama beat hillary clinton 19 different times in primaries, plus all the caucuses and he did, in fact, win the primary overall and became the nominee. once barack obama became president, bill kristol said he knew who barack obama was going to pick as his first nominee for the supreme court. he said he had it on good authority. >> if he has made up his mind, and i think it's going to be jennifer granholm, the governor of michigan.

they are holdovers from the cold war.ne reason i wrote the book is to remind people these are out there. at the heart of the book is the story of a weapons accident in damascus, arkansas, or we almost had a major war head explode, and i am trying to remind people of the risk of the complexity of these things. explain why we still have them. we don't have a major enemy like the soviet union anymore, and we need to think about this issue, how many do we need, how should they be deployed, why do we have them, where are they aimed at, and these are discussed in terms of iran, but not in terms of the united states. tavis: how fast is our supply? >> it's huge. at the peak of the cold war we had 32,000. now we have closer to 5000. about 1800 are ready to be used at a moments notice. just one of these weapons is powerful and distracted beyond our imagination. if one is that powerful, why do we need to blow the world up 100 million times? >> i guess because russia has so many, and there is still this mentality from the nuclear arm

the prevailing theory is that when hitler was a soldier of world war i he missed the end of the war because he pluses gassed with mustard gas so allegedly he had a deep aversion to chemical weapons but the nazis produced hundreds of thousands of tons of nerve agent. there were so many individuals under his command it is nothing short of a miracle it was not used the second question? spin if there is no need to do that because the not the scientists that came to america over given of the sun and later became u.s. citizens. >> i am slightly nauseous but also i cannot wait to get my hands of the book. when we left but also of the cia's the agent to identify the nazis. but my question is we left munich in the 1950's my father and stepfather had gone back and forth to geneva. and there are questions that i have. we left germany in 1951 he did not take any of the author lists -- offers but to move to damascus instead for i have never quite understood. i was only 10 years old with non german passports. every time the conductors would check with others said don't talk. the question always has been

when he fought the war and won his war against the united states, the only indian -- you know, the only american-indian to win, not a battle, a war against the united states, they knew who he was. this whole narrative, it was just, i hope we found a hoot and a holler to research and report. i hope you find the same. it was so exciting. we spent a lot of time out west. the historical society, university libraries from nebraska to wyoming up east to the dakses, north of montana, and we were treen daishesz starting the book. our previous three collaborations, there had been people to interview, sailors who sailed through all these types of world war ii. there were marines still alive who kept the road open coming out of the chosen, 189 marines held 10,000 chinese to allow the first marine division to get out, and there were certainly marine security guards alive to interview who have been mistakenly left on the roof of the saigon embassy in 1975. obviously, there was no one left from the 19th century, but what we did find was our forebearers were such literate people. we went into this exp

war on women, except maybe if you want to call obamacare a war on women. they're losing theirir doctors. they're losing their access. their choices are being constrained. >> come on. it's not just women who embracee the fact that they are no longer being charged more.is t it's the men in their life also. women turn out in much larger numbers for democrats 'causerats they look at the two parties and they say, who is representing my interests and it's not the party that wants to put a politician in between the conversations that you have with the man inn y your life, the doctor in your life, and the god in your life.a and that's what republicans are doing across -- >> the government isov largely interested in replacing the men in your life with the governmeni in your life. and that has been reallyun unfortunate because thatra constrains your choices further. >> let's do one issue at a time. reproductive rights.s. how do the republicans attack women? >> if you look at various piece of legislation, i think in the past year we have something like over 1,000 bil

so red clouds' war was a gorilla war. t t the miners starting complaining. and red cloud was winning. the more soldiers came out, the more indians were attracted to him, and he was baffling the united states army officers. red cloud set up three different attacks on a fort here, a supply train 200 miles away and on a wagon train 200 miles away from that. this never happened before. and he would attack, and instead of celebrating as was the american indian custom, he would attack the next day and this warriors disappeared. it was true gorilla warfare fan we didn't know how to handle it. the soldiers had seen stuff, but they were not used to supply trains where the soldiers had all their penises cut off. and ties of people alive set on fire with their eyes burned out. this might be the first time of u.s. soldiers making a pack to kill themselves rather than being captured. general grant and sherman said enough is enough. we will send out on army to fight red cloud. they sent out thousands of mounted infinity. they were learning how to ride on the fly and that

the war of 1812, the mexican war, the spanish-american war and the two world wars.esidents on their own have sent the nation into all the other wars in clear violation of the constitution. and george washington was the first president to do so. unfortunately, he set a precedent that many of his successors have often used recklessly. unlike those successors, when washington went to war in the west, the lives of thousands of american citizens were clearly at stake. in all, president washington established what i call in my book seven pillars of presidential power not provided by the constitution. he raised the first four pillars of power relatively easily. they were the powers over executive appointments, foreign affairs, government finances and defense and military affairs. raising the other three pillars, though, almost cost washington his life. again, i don't want to spoil my book for you, but of these three powers, one is the power to issue presidential proclamations or executive orders. the constitution says nothing about proclamations and doesn't give the presid

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war in afghanistan is officially the longest running war in american history and let's not forget the drone war killing civilians abroad that the u.s. is leading. despite sharp criticism of these tactics and most recently syria of course yet another potential military escapade that the u.s. president had been rooting for that was essentially avoided at the last minute largely thanks to russia that spearheaded brokering another way towards a solution. the united states should take military action against syrian regime targets military aggression one example after another russia has strategic reasons to care about what happens in crimea next as opposed to undertaking military ventures were never found see strikes as has become so traditional in the u.s. it barely surprises anyone anymore. military action has not even been given a green light for by the russian president and russia never said it's interested in war with ukraine regardless the world's top aggressor accuses moscow of being one playing double standards upon convenience and r.t. new york. well defying the interim leadership

it was a war within the war in which nazi germany diverted enormous amounts of resources down to the very last days of the war to stri start everythine had including bell labs. in a way, the theft of art and other properties is as old as warfare, to go back to the 70 conquest of jerusalem insignia that we see on one of napoleon's ventures, but what distinguished this fact was a threat to nato depths and efficiency and organization. with respect to artworks it is estimated that 600,000 pieces of art were stolen. for the museum that he planned after the war in his hometown, but the artwork was only a part of it. so for example, the homes and businesses, jewelry, insurance policies and bank accounts. and let me just mention the bank accounts and insurance policies we estimate will come back a little later. what we found through the article in the journal that i read when i was the ambassador it is a front page article, and it said there were dormant swiss bank accounts, that is accounts that have been set up during the war primarily about jews trying to shield their money from the onsla

the war. would it be resolved? 1965, lyndon johnson's administration was spending on both a war and a great society without raising taxes. the fed was left to fight the resulting inflation alone. the nation's central bank, originally created to protect the banking system against panics, acquired more power to affect the economy than even it imagined at the outset. the federal reserve: does money matter? with the help of economic analyst richard gill, we'll explore that question on economics usa. i'm david schoumacher. coins, bills, checks-- our basic money supply. the amount of money and where it goes wiin the banking system has been the main concern of our nation's central bank. at the fed's headquarters here in washington, dc, closed deliberations are held by experts who continuously monitor our financial health and prescribe remedies. how did these experts prescribe a remedy that plunged us even deeper into the great depression? early in the 20th century, american banks operated with little

, we need to pray there's not a war.s would be a turning point in history. if there's a war, ukrainians would support kiev and west would become part of the fighters. they don't have an army that can fight. that would be as bloody as anything. it will be a civil war. ancient hate reds, tombstones will be kicked over as they say. ancient hate reds would rome the land for years and years. >> you've studied russian relations. how bad is this now? >> i think we have seen the decent of russia divide, the russian boersd. can it end there? i think it depends whether the west now rises to leadership and gives putin guarantees he needs to back off. now in america there's a different view. has he to back off first. but that's where we stand. >> thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >>> for continuing coverage of the crisis in ukraine, visit "newshour".pbs.org. >>> china today blamed uighur separatists for a deadly attack at a train station. at least 29 people killed and 140 wounded after a group of 10 men attacked passengers at a train

why the war?nd bush and cheney's laser focus on iraq from nearly their first day in the white house? my colleague rachel maddow seeks to answer that question in her brand-new one-hour documentary that airs this thursday at 9:00 p.m. on msnbc. it's called "why we did it." what a great question. here is a piece from rachel's work. >> 11 days into office, bush assembles his national security team for the first time. along with the vice president and national security adviser condoleezza rice, the principles include secretary of state colin powell, defense secretary donald rumsfeld, and treasury secretary paul o'neill. >> paul o'neill opened up everything for the book i wrote about him in the bush administration, including 19,000 documents. and in the first national security council meeting of the bush presidency, january 30th of 2001, o'neill arrives with colin powell. >> according to suskind, the focus of the meeting that day is the middle east, iraq. >> immediately there is talk of the arab-israeli

i think we should indicate that we are not going to be at war and we are not committed to war, but if you resist, you will certainly gain the sympathy of the west will stop just as finland did in 1940 when stalin attacked. that creates pressure to do more. the net becomes something that putin has to consider. can he really undertake a war at this stage, given the state of his economy? which is very bad, and still in the relative state of his military, which is still being modernized -- in future years it will be in much better shape, but right now, i do not think this is something a putin would welcome. either the break up of ukraine or some upheaval in ukraine. we have to assure him in some kind of convincing fashion that it is not going to happen because it is not in our interest, too. but do you think that the germans will go -- >> do you think that the germans will go along with sanctions? >> i think they are more likely now than when the crisis first started. part of the problem has been that we have both the u.s. and europeans being lazy about this whole thing. the eu made an of

this was a sea change in how wars were fought.the monuments officers never really got much more help than that. they didn't have vehicles. they hitchhike their way around the country and making it up as they go, but the senior monuments officer in italy said it was the first solid ground under our feet. they could go around and see these military commanders and show this directive, and it had currency with them. we should say that general eisenhower and his command staff went to school on the mistakes they made. i the time of the normative landing, that same order similarly worded was issued two weeks before the normandy landing. >> we are way behind schedule, so i ask my colleagues to try to keep their answers short. but once the allies landed in france, in june 1944, and the allies increased their bombings of germany, the germans began hiding their own property and the property they had looted primarily in southern germany. in salt mines, in monasteries, castles, air raid bunkers. and some germans at this point, especially in la

as i describe it in the book, the department of defense is organized to plan for war, not to wage war. so the services dedicate all of their efforts, pretty much all of their efforts to developing their long-range procurement plans and then defending those plants in the budget process regardless of what comes along. and so, people reluctant to, for example, find, develop and fund the 90s this a protected vehicle is the date so many lives because that particular vehicle was not in any plan for the army or marine corps. >> i like to ask about that in just a moment. what it the key themes in that portion of the book it seems to me that the military planners inside the belt way come the civilian leaders inside the beltway simply didn't adjust to respond to. in fact, they do not adjust to changing situations. >> the fact that i also read after the initial invasion, there is stunningly bad decisions in the state.

decision to enter world war i.oth jewish and vigils and others attempted to oppose the zionist endeavors. one was ricky thompson. according to this, thompson was one of the most famous journalist of the 20th century. she had graced the cover of time magazine and has been profiled by america's top magazines and was so well known that a hollywood movie featuring catherine had hepburn were basen dorothy thompson. she had been the first journalist to be expelled by adolf hitler and raised this ahead of journalists. she had originally supported zionism, but then had visited the region in person and she began to speak about the hundreds of thousands of palestinians that israel had finally forced out to create a jewish state in the land that was already inhabited. thompson was viciously attacked in an orchestrated campaign of what she termed prerecession asian and character assassination. she wrote that it has been boundless going into my personal life. before long her column and radio programs and her speaking engagement

with how war works. this didn't start because we thought you know afghanistan has got the (bleep) endist stick for a while now. what say we do them a solid? it started because there was this guy, had a beard, sort of an (bleep) you wouldn't give him back. that's kind of what weapon went there for. why we stayed ten years, that's anybody's guess but the point we're trying to make is war is hell, not helpful. [ male announcer ] behold -- the original light beer. the inventor of great taste and less filling. the one that dared to say, maybe light beer should taste like beer. and for a limited time, miller lite is back in the original light can. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ wow, thanks. join dd perks today and get a free medium beverage. then, every dollar you spend on a dunkin' product earns you points for more free medium beverages. enroll today. america runs on dunkin'. [cheers and applause] >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight the host of miss neeb's rachel maddow -- msnbc's rachel maddow show. "why we did it." the general

war ii, world war i and vietnam. >> yes, the rates are higher now. traditionally, as charles knows, the suicide rate goes down in times of war. the fact that there has been this increase in this particular war is really unprecedented. the ways in which one can attack this problem though, i think have to be thought of as a multitude of relatively small, focused kinds of efforts. not one particular thing. there are a number of these one kind of thing fits all that happen to be true. the one about deployment that we mentioned, concession waivers, and reducing requirements, and getting less qualified people in, that's not the case, long deployment, and short time between these deployments. if you look at these things, there doesn't seem to be much going on, but when we look closely at in-depth patterns, we see a number of pockets of high-risk, where there are good opportunities for intervention, and our hope in those studies is we're going to increase the number of pockets that we see. and i can give you examples of a few of them. but i think that's our

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the bush administration made some assumptions going into the iraq war that it would be a war of liberation, that the iraqi people would support the taking down saddam hussein, a very brutal and hated it to be. and that since they would cooperate with the american forces, government and infrastructure would largely remain intact and, therefore, the united states didn't need to plan for a long occupation or an extended rehabilitation of the country. secretary of defense donald rumsfeld also looked on iraq as a laboratory to test his theories and to validate really the revolution in military affairs, the idea that high-tech forces with precision guided missions and intelligence aspects could collapse an enemy state relatively quickly, beginning at the center of gravity and then wind up the war fairly rapidly with fewer casualties. and that this was the sort of wave of the future, the u.s. will take affairs, was going to take advantage of. unfortunately, the enemy didn't cooperate. lieutenant general scott wallace, commander, as he is marching up country towards baghdad, supply bunch of being

for example, cyber war? >> sure, we get millions of thousands of cyber texts to our government and private sector. and i have to believe that any relinquish of control, even giving out ip addresses and domain names can be critical for national security. >> there is also the prospect some see here for political mischief, for example if a country doesn't like israel it can seek to boot the israelis off the internet. >> if we're one of many and don't have the veto control over others, then we're subject to these bad decisions made by international entities that don't necessarily have america's best interests at heart. >> those who favor the transition claim the fears are overblown that there will be little change in the internet and by giving up control, the u.s. will buy some international good will, much needed in the wake of edward snowden's revelations about america's vast dragnet of intelligence collections overseas. >> the fact is there has never been stewardship of our access and control over the interne

war. i think we have a time when we take off the rose-colored glasses. the obama administering has been more slisstuss of our adversaries than our allies. we have had a misguided view of putin and in syria and a lot of people around the world. we have to understand we do not share this community of shared values in which we are one among equals and just remind people they want to be on the right side of history, they don't want to be 19th century, they want to be 21st century, and somehow they are going to come along to our way of thinking. we have different adversaries that have different interests. if we realize that, we can expand the freedom of the world. >> gentlemen, one last question. we have like 30 seconds. which way is ukraine going to go? cliff? >> i think ukraine is going to be split one way or another. look, if crimea stays in russian hands, it is split. beyond that how much putin decides to take and how much he succeeds in taking, it is largely in his hands and not ours, but

it is slippery slope when we go back before world war ii. we can be proud of the works of art here have been donated or acquired through funds donated to the national gallery. there is no art that is coming in as a result of the united states fighting war. but the united states is a younger art. we know in london and france and works of art at the louvre were acquired different ways. there was a law in 1970 that prohibited the removal of cultural items. but i think when the de facto started that is when it began. there are five million items in caves and about a million belong to german museums and collectors. the united states and great britain forces are cust custodians of the art until they can be returned. i think it is the beginning of the end of this. the suez canal changes. and from the 1945-on we know it isn't going to go into countries and steal art. but trying to go back and look at the belgian marbles isn't the best thing to do. i think these are hot topics. i do think there she be discussions. perhaps loan plans worked out. but i