and that was really, warburg, nelson, don't do that. people know that you are a republican and that you are rich and that you're connected with all of the, you know, investment. don't call it the aldrich bill. currently have a great deal of the go. probably said, well, i'm well-respected. so he did. well, that is when the controversy started. people said exactly what was expected. they pulled the bill back because that is a lot of bad native -- negativity. they reissued almost the same bill but got some democrats. carter glass. the glaspell. and he was a democrat, said that was okay, you see. people still, even in those days, had the idea that somehow democrats were hard-working people. blue-collar and dirt under their fingernails like ted kennedy. [laughter] so it worked. the point is the ploy worked. now it was a bill being sponsored by the common man, and that is how they -- >> so in your view the bill, the federal reserve from the beginning was a ploy. >> absolutely was a ploy. it was a brilliant piece of strategy. these people were