and in sacramento, california, ward connolly, founder and president of the american civil rights institute. professor frost, whatever the merits of the decision did yesterday's ruling make it easier for states to use an outright ban on race-conscious decision making around decisions. >> yes, the answer is certainly did, but i want to make cheer what the decision did not do. it did not strike down affirmative action for prevent states who would like to incorporate affirmative action. with the opinion held with the equal protection clause of the constitution, it does not bar a state like michigan from banning the use of race-based admission policy . >> in those other states, are they right now untouched by this decision? >> no, this decision clearly sweeps as most supreme court decisions do, most broadly. those states who have already done this or in the future would like to put something in their constitution or state laws that ban the use of affirmative action by their public universities, those states know they can do that without threat of constitution challenge. >> when you look at the

ward connolly put together and we were marching, jesse jackson were organizing and we marched and weyears later to see what happened. we had 95 out of 5,000 freshmen, 95 african-american students and joy, 72 of them were scholarship athletes out of the 95 so it didn't work. the students suffered. as a white student i went to ucla to experience diversity, experience different people and after ten years when they ended affirmative action it failed miserably. >> we have data that shows the same basic thing happened at michigan state schools with affirmative action gone, black enrollment dlipd, overall population gone up. i want to you listen what ward connolly had to say just today about affirmative action and minorities. take a listen and then respond. >> the reality is that in some communities, black communities especially, the striving for higher education is not as great as it is among say chinese americans. >> that is simply not true that the striving differs across neighborhoods. there is a recent study that shows that controlling for parents education and income all groups, chine

over the american civil rights institute, warren connolly, and also the found over the asian american studies janelle wong. when we look at yesterday, wardsn't measures like this like the one in california that wants to allow affirmative action? >> well, i think that the decision helps everyone, because it says that this is one that the people can decide if they choose to do so. the complaint that had been filed by any means necessary said that the people should not have the right to make that decision, and this is of course, changes that, allows people to do that. >> right. you are in california, and if it is then -- >> yes. >> -- then allowed based on the vote, will you support it, because the people haven? >> well, we have passed proposition 209 in california which -- >> but they are voting right now to turn that around, to allow affirmative action, and the people vote and decide yes, that is what we want, will you support it then? >> well, what i am saying is that we have already decided that in california ther. there is a proposed constitutional amendment that has been dropped that would put this before the voters. yes, i always sup