senator warman mentioned their budget. if you can't win in the military spending and you can't win with soft power or your ideas they are going around the world selling marxist ideologies with this democracy or capitalism as they aren't able to sell what they have at home so the to protect it from being infiltrated by these ideas and the strength of that system.>> i feel like this conversation points to how confusing the threats of this disinformation is for our framework of understanding could you start by talking about hard power versus soft power and that they lack the ability to track the soft power.>> attracting to them, is the means through which we used to think of soft power working through ideas and values. i don't know if people have heard about the work done by chris walker on heart power. we also needed a different framework for understanding how this disinformation works. it does not fit into that binary framing.>> in your initial statement you spoke about social media stepping up. what could be done by intern