and yes, the more modern-day bonnie and clyde barrel gain fans believed they look like warren beatty and faye delegate but the fact remains that bonnie and clyde gain their initial notoriety in america. they were really the first electronic media icons. because with wire services, those goofy pictures they post were, could be in newspapers all over the country. so what you really have to do to understand their initial appeal is they were the late 1920s early 1930s ancestors of branch alina. [laughter] >> and everybody was just speculating on their love affair and the close bond were anything else. so once you understand the time when you understand the attitude to the time a little better, i think it always gives us a clear perspective of who people really were. >> hampton, kit carson of course may have been forgotten before your book around the country, but serving in new mexico he is kind of a searing memory and is not a positive figure at all. and so, you begin a journey that let you do have to reimagine carson and rewrite that southwestern myth. >> well, i think it's possible tha