successor, but she was always available when i needed to talk to her, and of course i knew warren christopher and madeline albright better than i had known some of the others, and jim baker, who had a great reputation when he was secretary of state for a toughness of mind, was often referred to by those with whom he had worked at the state department, and he believed deeply in diplomacy and became my principle partner on trying to highlight the role of diplomacy, building a diplomacy center in washington. >> host: do you give advice to secretary kerry. >> guest: john and i have talked frequently about issues. i respect the position he is in. he now has to make these hard choices, but i'm available to him, and have been fortunate to talk to him about a number of issues over the last year and a half. >> host: you say thatwash e warren griff -- warren christopher gave you the best piece of advice. >> guest: he said don't plan a vacation in august because something always seems to happen, and i you look at history, the guns of august, what a great title, but even as i was coming in, a few months

sitting in tallahassee with these three geniuses, warren christopher, bill daley and bob butterworth, who, by the way, had never been through an election battle that involved counting the votes. bill daley had but his kind of election battles were a little bit different, making sure the votes were there as opposed to afterwards counting the vote, or so the stories are told. we proceeded to give these three people a primer on florida election law. and, man, was it complicated at a time when you probably couldn't put 10 people in a room together who knew or dealt with election law enforcement. now i've tried to get election law be a board certification. lawyers need to know this area. and we explained to them what the law was and then had to fend off a lot of questions about how do we do that? how do we do recounts? how do we figure out what standards apply? all issues that courts had to deal with, not a hypothetical on a court reviewing after the fact, all because it mattered. why? because there was no elected president of the united states for a day after the election. what was the la

sectarian warren christopher and madeline albright. >> and the most recent service in the public sectoras assistant secretary of homeland security. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and that's from the obama administration? >> yes, sir. >> you trust the agents in the field, mr. kyle? >> i trust them. they know the ground truth. they know what's going on. they're the guys on the ground putting their lives on the line just like you did. when they make a recommendation to the state department, you take that seriously? >> yes, i would. >> are you aware the guys on the ground in benghazi repeatedly asked for additional security and were repeatedly denied? >> yes, sir. from what we saw. they said this thing is out of control. we need more good guys here. and it was worse than that, wasn't it, mr. kyle? >> probably, yes, sir. >> because they said not only we need more. but what they had was reduced. is that accurate? >> yes. we heard testimony he was on the ground in benghazi. he said we couldn't keep what we had. we're the united states of america. we have facilities all over the globe. my guess

sectarian warren christopher and madeline albright. >> and the most recent service in the public sectorsistant secretary of homeland security. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and that's from the obama administration? >> yes, sir. >> you trust the agents in the field, mr. kyle? >> i trust them. they know the ground truth. they know what's going on. they're the guys on the ground putting their lives on the line just like you did. when they make a recommendation to the state department, you take that seriously? >> yes, i would. >> are you aware the guys on the ground in benghazi repeatedly asked for additional security and were repeatedly denied? >> yes, sir. from what we saw. they said this thing is out of control. we need more good guys here. and it was worse than that, wasn't it, mr. kyle? >> probably, yes, sir. >> because they said not only we need more. but what they had was reduced. is that accurate? >> yes. we heard testimony he was on the ground in benghazi. he said we couldn't keep what we had. we're the united states of america. we have facilities all over the globe. my guess is t

viewed so highly hechoc was acty on the protective detail for secretary of state warren christopher, secretary ofra stae madeleine albright. i chose to use my ten minutes on mr. kyl. minority can use ten minutes on y want.r the this hearing they called you can handle however they want to. i yield back mr. chairman. you, gentleman from ohio. i recognize the gentlelady from california, mr. sanchez. >> i thank all the witnesses fr joining us what i hope will be productive and forward-looking hearing and what can be done and what is currently being done and what we have yet to do in terms of trying to prevent a tragedy from benghazi happening again or at very least minimizing the potential for something like that to happen again. i'm going to begin my questions, sort of in the same realm where the questioning left off. talking about the security accountability frail framework within the department of state. the best practices panel led by mr. sullivan determined, quote, clearly defined accountability and responsibility for security at every level i, s fundamental for effective security m

hours later kendall and i are flying up to tallahassee to meet with the secretary of state, warren christopher, bill daley, the campaign chair and bob butterworth, to talk about what is happening in the state of florida because we knew, we believed as lawyers, miss chief -- mischief was at hand. and 37 days later we still don't know if it was mischief or not but that's the nature be something that captivated america -- no, no, captivated america for -- the world, for 36 days. and justice kogan is right about people in colombia and elsewhere taking attention of this. as a side note, i spent time during the president nixon resignation year in ghana and nigeria, doing research. and the issue at that time was, well, of course the president of the united states would never be forced from office. he's got the army at his disposal. their view was of course, leaders take the army and you can't be forced out. and i was teaching a college class at the time in the university of lagos and i the ted the -- posited view that we're a constitutional system and the rule of law plies. -- applies. the same discu

sectarian warren christopher and madeline albright. >> and the most recent service in the public sectorstant secretary of homeland security. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and that's from the obama administration? >> yes, sir. >> you trust the agents in the field, mr. kyle? >> i trust them. they know the ground truth. they know what's going on. they're the guys on the ground putting their lives on the line just like you did. when they make a recommendation to the state department, you take that seriously? >> yes, i would. >> are you aware the guys on the ground in benghazi repeatedly asked for additional security and were repeatedly denied? >> yes, sir. from what we saw. they said this thing is out of control. we need more good guys here. and it was worse than that, wasn't it, mr. kyle? >> probably, yes, sir. >> because they said not only we need more. but what they had was reduced. is that accurate? >> yes. we heard testimony he was on the ground in benghazi. he said we couldn't keep what we had. we're the united states of america. we have facilities all over the globe. my guess is the

he was on the detail for secretary of state warren christopher and madeleine albright. i use my 10 minutes on mr. keil in the minority can use their focus on anyone they want to. >> i think that someone from ohio and i recognize the gentlelady from california ms. sanchez. >> thank you mr. chairman think it'll are witnesses for joining us for what i hope will be a productive and a forward-looking hearing on what can be done and what is being currently done and what we have yet to do in terms of trying to prevent a tragedy from benghazi from happening again or at the least minimizing the potential for something like that happening again. i'm going to get my questions in the same realm of where the questioning left off. talking about the security accountability framework within the department of state. defense practices panel which was led by mr. sullivan determined quote a clearly defined accountability and responsibility for security at every level is fundamental for effective security management within an organization. and the panel recommended the development of an acc

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