much the same way the parl harbor inquiry spurs more conspiracy theories in the same way the warren commission just spurs more conspiracy theories. it's not helped by the cia also coming out in 1997 and saying we've also been lying to you and we lied to you about the ufo sightings. you did see stuff but it was top secret military planes and we couldn't tell you. sorry, but ufos still aren't real. saying you've been lying for years is not going to build public trust you're now telling the truth. and so over the course of the ages as this roswell conspearicism develops, you see it move not mainstream acceptance but mainstream recognition. nobody came to class today never having heard of roswell. nobody came to class today having not seen a picture of a short gray alien with a big head and big eyes. and it's really very strongly at the forefront of popular consciousness in the '90s. and you get best selling paper backs that get turned into high rated tv shows. the truth about roswell gets turned into a show time show. you get the classic tabloid covers, weekly world news. all over the clinton ail

the warren commission was not believed when it was issued. in november of 1963, 29% believe one man did it. 52% thought others involved and others had no opinion. as we move into the 1960s and '70s, as the lack of faith in the united states government increases, as the fear of the united states government increases, that number goes up and up and up. in march 2001, it's 80%, did not believe. what they're saying is, we had an investigation, the government investigated, the supreme court of the justice department came out and investigated and at some point in 2001, more than three-quarters of the american people go, you're lying. trust no one. they lie to us. and then there are the revelations of the government conspiracy that starts in the 1970s. in the pentagon papers of 19d 71, documents about what the united states was doing in vietnam. watergate in 1972 that the president himself is about to be indicted for breaking into the offices of the dnc at the watergate hotel. operation mongoose. the church committee, the committee on assassinations

but you need an overarching picture in the same way that we had the warren commission report. it wasn't just a question, if he had lived, if indicting and convicting lee harvey oswald. we needed to have the kennedy assassination committee, the warren commission report, to tell us what actually happened, how did he get the weapons, who else [ inaudible ]. might have been involved. commissions give us the full picture. for the present and history. >> for years, you were right, you were early on it, in in terms of the democratic perspective on it, which is re districting or gerrymandering. joe manchin is not against the for the people act because of the gerrymandering. it's because of the other things that are in it, the campaign finance, the presidential tax returns, the d.c. statehood stuff. why not take that stuff out and treat gerrymandering, as serious as it is, have it be a standalone bill, hold his feet to the fire, he'll have to support it and make it a clean sale? >> we try to work on senator manchin between now and the time the vote occurs. we need to focus on him and t

the warren commission was not believed when it was issued. in november of 1963-29 percent believe that one man. did it 52% thought others involved in some had no opinion. as we move into the 1960s and 70s as the the lack of faith in the united states government increases as the sense that the government does bad things goes up as the fear of the united states government increases that number goes up and up and up. in march 2001. it's the 81% did not believe so what they are saying is you we had an investigation the government investigated the chief justice of the supreme court came out and said this is what happened and at some point in 2001 more than three-quarters of the american people go you're lying. trust no one they lie to us. right and then there are the revelations of government conspiracies that starts in the 1970s and the pentagon papers in 1971 leaked documents about what the united states was doing in vietnam watergate in 1972 that the president himself is about to be indicted for breaking into the offices of the dnc at the water

the pearl harbor inquiry just spurs more conspiracy theories and much the same way that the warren commission just spurs more conspiracy theories. the air force is roswell report just spurs more conspiracy theories. it's not helped by the cia. also coming out in 1997 and saying we've also been lying to you and we lied to you about the ufo sightings. you did see staff, but it was top secret military planes and we couldn't tell you sorry, but ufo is still unreal. we're going to have exactly the same impact. saying that you've been lying for years is not going to build public trust that you're now telling the truth. and so over this kind of course of the ages and 90s as this roswell conspiracism specifically develops and this abduction conspiracism more generally develops. you really see it move into not mainstream acceptance but mainstream recognition. nobody came to class today never having heard of roswell. nobody came to class day having never seen a picture of a short gray alien with a big head and big eyes. and it's really very. strongly at the forefront of popular consciousness in the 90s

we've had the warren commission, we've had the 9/11 commission, the most recent. so, we've only got a couple commissions to look to as a model. but i think one of the reasons that 9/11 commission is considered a model, because the -- how it was put together, how it was crafted. the bipartisanship. i don't think any commission is perfect. and i think there is always going to be an element of politics in these commissions. but that shouldn't stop us from trying to find perfection, trying to find the truth, trying to find as much as we can. so, i don't think that's an excuse not to have a commission that 9/11 didn't fulfill everything. >> you know, in a conversation of the radicalization that led to the insurrection on january 6th, president obama in his conversation with anderson cooper, he talked about the dark spirits that he said that were at the periphery of the republican party and how they've now become central. listen and then we'll talk on the other side. >> you talk about sarah palin, her brief ascend antsy and you talk about dark spirits lurking on the edg

we've used that before in the warren commission after john kennedy's assassination, another example oficult but to look honestly at all the facts that were available, what was done and what wasn't done. >> who is going to investigate president trump's role, for example? do you think we'll ever get answers to the questions about what he was doing that day, why it took so long for the national guard to show up, et cetera? >> those are different questions. there will be online activity perhaps, maybe some physical evidence. whether or not he will ever be required to testify, i would be guessing that. even beyond that there's information out there in social media about what people were talking about doing, which what's ironic about this is unlike as has been the case in the past like with 9/11, where the plotters operated in secret, here the plotters boasted about what they were going to do openly. acquiring that, organizing it, following up on it should be a relatively straightforward but very important task. >> so, widen the lens here a little bit, mr. secretary. you're also a member of

why we had 9/11 commission, warren commission. all these independent of congress. independent. democrats, equal numbers on a commission to find out what drove all of this? what really happened? what was behind this? how deep is this in our society? we had active duty military involved. national guard involved. we had active duty policemen involved in this. people lost their lives. capitol hill policemen lost their lives. unprecedented in history. we need to understand the truth. i mean, i don't know why republicans are so afraid of the truth. that's all we're looking for. we're not looking to blame people. we just need to understand. america does. this is historic. never happened before. our capitol was attacked and occupied. people died. and how deep is this? how deep in our society is this? how big a problem is this? and it's -- i just think it's so clear that we need an independent investigation. >> we've got to let you go but a quick reaction to the fact the former president is apparently telling people he expects to be back in office by august. reinstated as president by au

equal number of republicans, democrats, model on the warren commission. it's the right thing to do. ssion last week. we've seen a breakdown in trust and confidence in our institutions in this country over the last few years in our leaders. we've segmented our politics, we've polarized our society. and so you've got variations of each party. you've got the trump republicans, then you've got traditional republicans and then you have variations of those republicans. same thing in the democratic party. the only way we can all be brought back together is some trust and some compromise to try to move america forward. i'm at a loss, chuck, why our elected officials don't understand -- i guess they don't understand that the oath of office they took was not to a party, not to a president, not to a philosophy, it was to the country and the constitution. that's the answer here. everything we do to set that back, the crazy stuff going on in texas and other states, and i think what the democrats is proposing to the senate is wrong as well. >> let me ask you this. you split the republicans in basi

went one-on-one face to face with former supreme court justice earl warren who was leading the warren commissionuestioned jack ruby. jack ruby took a lie detector test. this is an unbelievable story that is so rich. i was so embarrassed i didn't know about and i'm so glad i got to know more about. >> is it harder or easier to dispel conspiracy theories today as opposed to the era you just studied? >> it's always been hard. it is so hard to dispel conspiracy theories. and it is very similar to some of the ones we see today in terms of trying to lay out facts as to why things aren't true. because what you see very often with regards specifically to jack ruby is that i will lay out specific facts as to why the timing makes it impossible that jack ruby could have been involved in a broader conspiracy. and, yet, rather than address what i view is sort of definitive evidence that ruby could have been part of a conspiracy, the answer goes to, what about his mob ties? and what about his relationship in chicago? what about a phone call he made to a mobster a few days before this happened? it is a change

we've been talking to hungary, warren minutes or pitcher fiarty, who is also very critical of use intensive scrutiny of sputnik. we look here. okay. and commission made a big mistake at the very beginning by considering vaccines as if they were issues of ideology or geo politics. and they made, made a mistake regarding the contract as well. because if you look at the united states, united kingdom, israel, they've been using best vaccines as well, but they received much more at the beginning, they were able to, to start their vaccination campaign watch was much more quickly compared to the european union. so there was a big mistake because timing, timing was very bad. and these thoughts are also being echoed by the world health organization officials. we understand that there are many places around the world beside europe where there are issues with vaccine shortages and where the situation is much more difficult. and that's why the w h ho is also praising russia for its efforts as, as being approved in more and more countries around the world as the region that is in charge of the w for you to be region. my always had been very, very clear that

commission. >>> "thelma and louise", "butch cassidy and the sundance kid", all dynamic duos, but none made as much money as warreneir six-decade friendship has become one of the most storied friendships of all time. >> how candi >> how did the business relationship start >> warren had scorn for my way of living and took me a long time to wise up that he had a better way of making a living than i did he finally mentioned to me that i was wasting my time. >> as a lawyer >> i told him it was okay as a hobby. >> becky, you've interviewed these two dozens of times over the last decade. what is it from your reporting about their relationship that really drives their success? >> that's a good question. nobody really knows for sure the two of them say that they don't always disagree, but they've never gotten in a fight. can you tell when you sit down with them. they disagree and poke each other here and there but are very respectful. they both grew up in omaha, they both actually worked in buffett's grandfather's grocery store but never met each other until they were older. one was in his late 30s and another at 25. that

commission. >>> they lmma and louise, bert n ernie, all dynamic duos but none made as much money as warren buffett time cnbc's becky quick caught up with the pair for a rare interview. >> so how did the business relationship start >> well, warren had scorn for my way of making a living, and he was correct in that. it took me a long time to wise up he had a better way of making a way of living than i did he finally convinced me i was wasting my time. >> as a lawyer >> i felt it was okay as a hobby. not the real way to spend his time. >> becky quick is here now you've interviewed these two dozens of times over the last decade what is it from your reporting about their relationship that really drives their success? >> you know, shep, that's a good question nobody really knows for sure the two of them say that they don't always disagree, but they have never gotten in a fight and you can tell when you sit down with them they disagree. they poke each other here and there, but they're very respectful they both grew up in omaha it probably has to do with their upbringing they were very close to each other

commission, charlie? charlie: yeah, and by the way, worries that they're going to be the target of elizabeth warren and someause they are making a ton of money right now, and the economic recovery is still somewhat very uneven, but for this segment, neil, what i'm hearing from my wall street executives is they're trying to get there by sources among the wall street executive crowd, i should say, trying to get their arms around what exactly the top cop of wall street, gary gensler, the chairman of the sec, is looking to do, and they are setting up meetings with him, they are having calls with him. we should point out that apparently he's not fully in the office in washington, of the sec. he's doing a lot of his work from what i understand from his home in baltimore. be that as it may he's still moving forward with what people are saying and these are the executives interpreting the words of gary gensler, they are speaking with him, a transformational chairmanship, and agenda for the sec, so what does that mean? he's going to go into areas that the sec in the past really didn't go into before, and that's goin

warren. >> attacking bernie and elizabeth? plot twist. it's got to be really frustrating at this point because, you know, willie, you take the commission -- the january 6th commission. that is kind of low hanging fruit for the republicans to sign on to. the same thing to sign on to at any point in history, at least in our lifetimes, but not now because they don't want people to hear the truth about donald trump and then the infrastructure. infrastructure -- you know, i was trying to explain to yesterday. that was the one bill when a small group of us were constantly pushing to cut spending. we usually did pretty well, you get to transportation and everybody would roll over you because they all wanted a bridge in their district. they all wanted whatever. money for whatever infrastructure project they wanted. and so, infrastructure should be easy. that a's the one thing that republicans and democrats come together with. if they can't get ten republicans on the infrastructure bill, it's not going to happen. >> well, they're not going to get ten republicans on the infrastructure bill as they propose it at -- as the white house has proposed it