warren helmond brought in third parties. we also have the official family of reviewers through our controller's office. there is someone else was during much a political in this. he has people on his staff and people he hired as independent contractors reviewing the actual numbers of what we can save with each proposal. with that kind of expertise, along with keeping close device from our city attorney -- getting advice from our city attorney on what is legal to do, all of that has been a part of the effort. we have been patiently sharing the information and proposals with union leaders. you will find and i trust that every union even if they are in disagreement with us will not say that they were not included in a very transparent way. this was done with serious effort. you have to reward that effort with a serious response to it. you have to pay attention. paying attention means we will do our best to get to a point where most of us will agree that this is the way out. city employees and the public need to have this in fro

warren helmond brought in third parties. we also have the official family of reviewers through our controller's office. there is someone else was during much a political in this. he has people on his staff and people he hired as independent contractors reviewing the actual numbers of what we can save with each proposal. with that kind of expertise