. >> the widow of your constituent constituent, warren wine stein considered the be efforts inconsistent. >> the lessons learned from that circumstance is that we need one person responsible for coordination of these strategies. when we have a hostage involved we have the fbi, department of justice involved, white house involved and other agencies involved. we need to have one person that is solely focused in getting that person home. that is the lesson learned from the warren winesteen situation. >> paid the ransoms, shuttled moan through third parties and secured their love one's freedom. are americans targets in a dinner way? and thus have a different approach? >> well, there's no easy answer to that question. we know that if you accommodate those who are using these tactics that it may encourage them to be more aggressive in taking hostages. so we know that there is a down side to cooperation. and meeting the demands in order to get a safe return. we also know that in some cases, the funds are transferred and you still don't have a safe return. so i think it's not as simple to say it