well joining me now from persons warrick university is leon silly huggins is professor upgrade will sustainable development program specializing in the caribbean region. professor hurricanes on uncommon this type this time of year b but the atlantic s never seen on as powerful as i am. do you think it't's le the climatchchange. yes i am thank you very much will because i should say that it's very heartbreaking to see the facts. i am but you spawn. i mean sons of the impacts of climate change wanting the scientists have noticed that since the nineteen seventies the strength of category cited overcast reformed five hurricanes has almost doubled. and and what is not necessarily possible to say that is specific hurricane easing the climate change this kind of intensity of arcane certainly is. and do you u think that strg words are more frequent hurricanes a are going to become the norm in that case is climate change continues. it seems very likely and wanting this crucial and as we think about how best to respond to this kind of hyrcanus dissent in this kind of wider social political context so. sc

all dr ben margulies politics and international relations expert at warrick university in the u.k. joins us live now on the program good to have your company. do you think that violent protests were where for seeable as he nears the right word after such a decision. i'd say that they were if it's a historical pattern you often you have a cycle of peaceful protests in the united states which are followed by small splinter groups in gauged in violence so it's not. it's not an unusual pattern no though there's a difference between you know the small groups that break off from protests as we've seen in recent years and the larger. the larger scale more generalized rioting that used to accompany the. race related riots during the twentieth century for example in los angeles in one thousand nine hundred two but is it it's small splinter groups that we've seen and it's three sustained nights of violence that the police are not able to contain. yes but what i understand from the media reports there are large scale protests and then relatively small numbers of people engaged in violence aft