once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. take your pick of adjectives -- the debt ceiling deadline is looming, or threatening, or imminent. or verbs -- collegiality has collapsed, patience with washington has plummeted. or merely descriptive -- republicans are stubborn, the democrats are job killers. none of this point and counterpoint allows us to escape a troubling truth. unless someone somewhere comes up with a solution that can win votes from democrats and republicans in the house and the senate, the nation will default on its obligations beginning next week. after spurning speaker john boehner's plan yesterday, the house today came up with another approach. which finally passed, but is certain to die in the senate. >> i stuck my neck out a mile to -- i put revenues on the table in order to try to come to an agreement to avert us being where we are. this house has acted and it is time for the administration and time for our colleagues across the aisle, put something on the table! tell us where you are! gwen: is all this

anything it's friday july twenty ninth four pm here in washington d.c. on this account for nothing watching our team. well instead of looking forward to a relaxing evening sorry weekend a relaxation this friday unfortunately this nation is still at the mercy of washington gridlock now d.n.a. is just around the corner as the august second deadline approaches and default looms prevent states and just how close are we according to our handy dandy little clock here four days seven hours and counting until doomsday now of course if you look at what's actually going on in washington yesterday the republicans in the house saw a huge defeat baner wanted to vote on his bill he was super embarrassed he had to pull the bill off the floor now there's talk about another showdown this evening but all of this frenzy action in washington really misses the bigger point we're screwed financially we cannot afford to pay our obligations and we're not taking in enough revenue to continue the system as it is now that is the point of view that's taken by my next guest who i sp

washington remains in gridlock. so we're checking in with four elected officials from around the country. massachusetts democratic governor deval patrick, wisconsin's republican governor scott walker, ohio's republican governor john kasich, and los angeles democratic mayor antonio villaraigosa. what is the impact with the washington impasse in their states? what will be the impact out in the country if the president and congress are unable to reach a deal to raise the debt limit? it's all next on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs "face the nation" with cbs news chief washington correspondent bob schieffer. and now from washington, bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning again. welcome to "face the nation" on this fourth of july weekend. governor patrick is in rockport, massachusetts. ohio governor governor john kasich is in massachusetts. republican governor scott walker joins us from his state capital in madison and los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa is out at the aspen ideas festival in aspen, c

this one caused almost entirely by washington.defaulting on our obligations is a reckless and irresponsible outcome to this debate. and republican leaders say they agree we must avoid default. but the new approach that speaker boehner unveiled today which would temporarily extend the debt creeling in exchange for spending cuts would force us again to face the threat of default just six months from now. in other words, it doesn't solve the problem. first of all, a six-month extension of the debt ceiling might not be enough to avoid a credit downgrade and the higher interest rates that all americans would have to pay as a result. we know what we have to do to reduce our deficits. there's no point in putting the economy at risk by kicking the can further down the road. but there's an even greater danger to this approach. based on what we've seen the past few weeks, we know what to expect six months from now. the house of representatives will once again refuse to prevent default unless the rest of us accept the cuts-only approach. aga

of washington to lead and to come up with a solution that they're concerned washington is not goingo fix their problems. and it trickles down to all of us. >> a lot of other ceos say the same thing, we've had this recurring conversation, they don't know what the tax environment will be like for the next several years and now they see the debt ceiling playing out. we can assume whether they get a deal through 2012 or not the debt ceiling has become a bit of a political ping-pong ball. how much on the bigger economy, how much does the dysfunction of washington if you want to call it that or the indecision of washington effect whether a ceo out there will hire somebody? >> i think up to now it was more of a talking point from business than reality. the ceos i've talked to said they weren't worried about uncertainty, but the uncertainty they were worried about was there going to be business be there, was demand going to be there. we've moved into a new phase and somehow we're a country where our leadership can't come together and do the basic business of government is going to make ever

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washington is., tea partyers aren't suddenly to blame for the credit rating agency now putting this country's credit on watch. credit rating agencies first warned about this years ago. fact six, tea party have been consistently opposed to the gimmicks that created the mess. washington offered more gimmicks to allegedly fix this mess. fact seven. tea partyers aren't the only one saying a debt hike without meaningful spending cut is a waste. standard & poor's itself warned a deal would be a travesty. fact eight, tea partyers aren't the crazy ones for saying it's time to stop the nonsense. those who call them crazy for speaking the obvious are the ones who make no sense. fact nine, tea partyers resisting business as usual, aren't the possible right now. self-serving politicians practicing business as usual are. fact ten, tea partyers demanding accountability isn't the stuff that brought to us the brink. washington's continued failure to be accountable has us at the brink. so let me be clear. before we

and a thousand guys down the river at fort washington.they run back, mcarthur starts this whole group coming across the memorial bridge. coming to downtown washington. the tanks are coming down, and of course, they relieve grassford. glassford is furious at this point. he says, i've got control of the situation. mcarthur takes over. the teargas starts being fired. the buildings are set on fire. 2,000 teargas cannisters are fired, many of which are c.s. gas, which is the powerful, potent world war i, combat-variety of teargas, tanks roll down pennsylvania avenue. they're driven out of downtown and driven across the 11th street bridge, which is a drawbridge. they're driven back into the camp. and then mcarthur takes a dinner break. and it gets to be 9:00 at night. and mcarthur is starting across the river. a and he's disobeying somebody's orders. >> the plan, the war plan that mcarthur is choosing has called for the president to declare martial law. which the president hasn't done. but mcarthur is exceeding his orders from the white house.

western washington. i just want you to know there have been several wolves that have come to my house and they presented me with a petition they would like to visit the cascades. mr. dicks: we'd like to have them. mr. simpson: you're welcome. mr. hastings: the gray wolves are showing up in the cascades now, eastern side of the cascades. you'll get them. i yield back. mr. dicks: the olympic too. the chair: the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from washington. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. mr. dicks: mr. chairman. the chair: the gentleman from washington. mr. dicks: i ask for a recorded vote. the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by offered by the gentleman from washington, mr. dicks, will be postponed. the clerk will read. the clerk: page 60, line 6, trailing livestock over land. mr. dicks: mr. chairman. the chair: for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr.

once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. when the president of the united states starts using words like "armageddon," you can be forgiven for wondering how we got to this point. short version? leaders in both parties agree that borrowing limits should be raisedand that the deficit should be cut yet they seem no closer tonight to figuring out how to do it than they were this time last week. the basic options on the table, the big deal, about $4 trillion in budget cuts. the medium deal, about 2:5 trillion in cuts with no revenue increases or tax price. and the deficit ceiling deal. at a white house news conference today the president resorted to bakery metaphors. >> i think about this like layer cake. you know, you can do the bare minimum and then you can make some progressively harder decisions to solve the problem more and more and we're in a position now where if we're serious about this and everybody is willing to compromise, we can fix this thing probably for a decade or more. gwen: but speaker john boehner who only last

regime type two washington protected by washington they're trying to hide behind it and say ask us to stay also because to say this is what's up i go to the other friends in there and i sort of raise in cambridge in the last words this program here we've heard the term the arab spring is there such a thing as the kurds spring. there was a cow to. spread then go ahead. there there is an arab spring and it's a very welcome there has been already a kurdish spring there is no occupation of the kurdistan region there are no american american soldiers present there and the american presence on iraqis i was thrilled shouldn't stand by it because it's about a regional government there is there is corruption throughout our of iraq on a much greater scale than the kurdistan region i think what you've already seen me unfortunately is old fashioned arab nationalists propaganda and what is vital to understand is that iraq has just gone through an absolutely terrific arab civil war that was not primarily kohls by the american occupation it was cause i don't think this is just journalism in a very s

close to washington, near 70 prince george's county. mid-70s in washington. montgomery, arlington, fairfax counties have now dipped down into the 60s. it's in the low to mid-60s farther west and north. and out of the mountains of western maryland. look at the heavy rain that passed just south of washington and thankfully missed the mall for all of the events and festivities in our nation's capital. things remain dry. now this morning, the skies clearing out. there's the sunrise over the potomac river near 9:00, near 80 degrees. still just a moderate humidity in the area. with stagnant air, air pollution will be building. unhealthy air quality by midafternoon, code orange. highs near 90 by then. we'll look at changes on the way for tonight, your night planner, in about ten minutes. danella, good morning. how's traffic? >>> i have report of an accident in virginia outer loop of the beltway as you approach little river turnpike. be aware as you make your commute. 270 south, i'm seeing some congestion as you leave urbana and make your way towards 109. this is 109

>> there was a shaft that george washington said hu -- shaft that george washington had. a lot of the early presidents like french cooking. there was a pattern that once they were trained, a lot of them escaped, and they did not come back. jefferson had the same thing happen. he had them trained, brought some of them to france, and this person also left. he bought his freedom. jarvis and asked would you come back and work for me, and he said it now -- jefferson? would you come back and work for me, and he said no. this was an important vehicle. >> kenneth walsh, i am so glad you did this book. you worked brilliantly at it. we would like to thank you for watching, and remind you this program has been possible by arizona public service, and its holding company, panicle west. we'll be back in a week. until then, visit us on the web at whchronicle.com. cheers. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- "white house chronicle" is produced in collaboration with howard university television. from washington, d.c., this has been "white house chronicle" a we

it's hard for washington to do big things. they are used to the status quo. >> i wish we had more time. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >>> i want to bring in congressman mack. he's voting against the boehner plan. good evening. what have you been hearing today? have people been twisting your arm? >> i haven't had my arm twisted. i made it clear to the leadership, for me, this is about balancing the budget. i have introduced a plan that would do just that by cutting 1% of spending a year for six years, capping spending at 18% of gdp. we balance the budget in eight years all by taking one penny out of every federal dollar. >> i have read over your plan. it's interesting, but it's not the thing being voted on tonight. is it a mistake they are not talking to you saying is there a variation of this plan that could bring you on board? right now, the problem is nobody has a plan that can get approved. >> here is the problem. the problem is, we are $14 trillion in debt. we have a $1.4 trillion or $1.5 trillion deficit a year. th

the "washington post" reports that if washington doesn't receive an acceptable trade offer, they are willing to go through the 2011 season with albert haynesworth on the roster. >> they'll win a happy meal for him in exchange. >>> in tennis, two days after venus williams made the capitals debut, it was serena's turn. she missed almost the entire year due to injuries and now she's back doing what she loves the most in a city she loves. >> it's awesome to be back. i love playing for the capitals and i love playing for the city and i love the city and it's so beautiful and now we're right on the water. it's great. mazing place and >> amazing hair. >> i've never seen her with her down all like that. >>> checking out the tennis, point of the night. serena williams. now rusty winning in women's b

is washington broken? while politicians stonewall and fight over the debt talk, the public recoils. approval ratings for congress plummet and pessimism about the country's future rises. are our politicians capable of meeting the challenges this country faces? a special discussion this morning. with us, former senator chuck hagel, republican of nebraska, cory booker, democratic mayor of newark, tea party freshman congressman adam kinzinger, presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, and nbc's andrea mitchell. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good morning. after the dramatic friday night breakdown of talks over a so-called grand bargain deficit reduction package, congressional leaders met with the president for less than an hour saturday morning. speaker boehner spent the rest of the day working on an alternative plan to slash spending, several trillion dollars, and avert a catastrophic default by that august 2nd deadline, as we pointed out, just nine days away. word came last night after

this one caused almost entirely by washington. so defaulting on our obligations is a reckless and irresponsible outcome to this debate, and republican leaders say they agree we must avoid default, but the new approach that speaker boehner unveiled today which would temporarily extend the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts, would force us, once again, to face the threat of default just six months from now. in other words, it doesn't solve the problem. first of all, a six-month extension of the debt ceiling might not be enough to avoid a credit downgrade and the higher interest rates that all americans would have to pay as a result. we know what we have to do to reduce our deficits. there's no point in putting the economy at risk by kicking the can further down the road. but there's an even greater danger to this approach. based on what we've seen these past few weeks, we know what to expect six months from now. the house of representatives will again refuse to spend unless we do the cuts only approach. again, they will refu

thank you. >> once again, live from washington. >> good evening. well, that head banging you may be hearing is the sound of frustration here in washington as the august 2 debt ceiling deadline he grows ever closer. negotiations collapsed again tonight, yet the latest twist in the series of talks where each party has had its turn walking away from the table. the president came into the white house briefing room late today to offer his version of events. >> up until sometime early today when i couldn't get a phone call returned, my expectation was that speaker boehner was going to be willing to go to his caucus and ask them to do the tough thing but the right thing. i think it has proven difficult for speaker boehner to do that. i have been left at the altar now a couple of times and i think that, you know, one of the questions that the republican party is going to have to ask itself is can they say yes to anything? >> speaker boehner then came before the cameras and said the rules had changed. >> let me just say that the white house moved the goal p

to washington.t: melissa says -- and at the front page of the "washington post" has the president as a player. does blame fall among all of them or is it just the president? guest: all of them. i said at the top of the show that you cannot blame the president. and you cannot blame, obviously, this congress. you have to go back to last congress and the congress before. we did not get here overnight and we will not change it overnight. it is our federal government, that is the problem. host: from north carolina, the head. -- go ahead. caller: you need to take this all the way back to bill clinton when he signs nafta. i see thousands and thousands of jobs leaving this country and going to other countries. and then also watch the illegal immigrants, and and taking the construction jobs. people said that they were taking jobs that people would not do. and you know, it has been at downhill battle ever since. and i am in the construction industry, and i've been on all of these jobs around here, nbc crew af

>>> on our broadcast tonight, showdown here on capitol hill in washington. is it possible they're back to square one in this debt ceiling crisis? we'll show you how the speaker of the house responded when i asked him if he's got a rebellion on his hands. >>> signs of life. what it was like during that attack in norway. a daughter's text messages to her mother while the gunman's rampage was under way. >>> triumph and tragedy. an american at the top of his game at the olympic games and now questions about how he fell so hard, so fast to such a tragic ending. >>> and american history. from world war i until present day, a place that has healed america's badly wounded warriors. tonight an emotional ending for a great name. "nightly news" begins now. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> and good evening from capitol hill in washington. tonight, where this fight over the looming financial crisis goes on on two fronts, here in these corridors and across the country, on the internet, on the airwaves, while elected lawmakers, it should be said, engage in

i'm pete williams in for gwen ifill tonight on "washington week." time is running out to get a deal on the debt and deficit here at home. >> by august 2 we run out of tools to make sure that all our bills are paid. so that is a hard deadline. at a certain point they need to do their job. >> but republicans are pushing back hard. >> instead of going to phil tonight and raising money, why didn't he call senator mcconnell, speaker boehner, minority leader pelosi? and majority leader reid into his office and sit down and do his job? >> a game of chicken or a principaled standoff and where will it lead? while in greece protests over drastic measures to keep that country solvent. is there a ripple effect for the global economy? the republicans have a new candidate for president. >> together we can make a better america if we stick together. together we can bring the promise of the future. >> account tea party favorite run toe to toe with the other contenders? and the roberts court concludes its term with a major first amendment ruling. we wrap up the sess

the regime tied to washington protected by washington that tried to hide behind it and say ask us to stay ask us to say this is what's up right now they're going to read some of your friends in there listening. in the last word this program here we've heard the term the arab spring is there such a thing as the kurds spring there was a kind of. friendship that there have there is an arab spring and it's a very welcome there has been already a kurdish spring there is no occupation of the kurdistan region there are no american american soldiers present there any american presence and if that is that israel shouldn't go because it's about a regional government there is there is corruption throughout our of iraq on a much greater scale than the kurdistan region i think what you've heard recently unfortunately is old fashioned arab nationalist propaganda and what is vital to understand is that iraq has just gone through an absolutely terrific in fact arab civil war that was not primarily caused by the american occupation it was called what i've been doing this is just gentlemen this has be

and from the inside, the western evening sky of washington as well as the washington monument serve as the back drop. >> congress has always needed information. when they were in philadelphia and new york, there were libraries. they had a wonderful collection. when they got to washington, d.c., there were battlefields. there were no libraries. what they had to do was create a library. the actual creation came in a bill signed by president john adams. he found a place in the northwest corner of the capitol building. >> they build the rotunda, they built the library of congress along the west front of the capital between the senate and the house chambers. for many years, the west front of the capital was the library of congress. >> by 1814, the library of congress held about 3000 volumes. most of which were destroyed. >> in 1814, british troops marched on maryland avenue and they burned down the capitol building. >> thomas jefferson read about it in the newspaper. he offered to sell the library -- to sell to the library his own book collection. >> it turned out that he needed the money a

"washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> joining us from salt lake city, governor christine gregoire. she serves as the chair for the association. governor, thank you for your time today. >> joining us this sarah murray from the wall street journal. as far as how states are giving that top discussions here in washington d.c., what are the concerns among chief executives like yourself among what is going on? >> i think the biggest concern the biggest concern and the more inaction we have been out of washington, d.c., the more upset this causes in our own economies and state. consumer confidence and business confidence is affecting my economy. you can imagine my consumer confidence is down. i'm not getting revenues and it is affecting the coffers of state government. a number of those in the business community have money but have not been willing to hire simply because of the uncertainty of what is going on in washington, d.c. that really has a direct impact but not just my state. with all the individuals

this one caused almost entirely by washington. so defaulting on our obligations is aire responsible outcome and republican leaders say they agree we must avoid default but the approach john boehner unveiled today would force us to once again face the threat of default just six muchs from now. in other words, it doesn't solve the problem. first of all, a six month extension of the debt ceiling might not be enough to avoid a credit down grade and the highest inrist rates americans would have to pay. we know what we have to do. no point in putting the economy at risk by kicking the can further down the road. but there is a greater danger to the approach. based on what we have seen, we know what to expect six months from now. the house will once again refuse to prevent default unless the rest of us accept their cuts only approach. again they will refuse to ask the wealthest americans to give up tax cuts or deductions. again they will demand harsh cuts to programs like medicare and the economy will be held captive unless they get their

this one caused almost entirely by washington. so defaulting on our obligations is a reckless and irresponsible out come to this debate, and republican leader say that they agree we must avoid default. but the new approach that speaker boehner unveiled today, which would temporarily extend the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts would force us to once again face the threat of default just six months from now. in other words, it doesn't solve the problem. first of all, a six-month extension of the debt ceiling might not be enough to avoid a credit downgrade and the higher interest rates that all americans would have to pay as a result. we know what we would have to do to reduce our deficits. there's no point in putting the economy at risk by kicking the can further down the road. but there's an even greater danger to this approach. based on what we've seen the last few weeks, we know what to expect the next few weeks from now. the house of representatives will refuse to prevent default unless the rest of us accept their cuts

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you are on "washington journal." you are on "washington journal." the duplication where we have the fbi, the cia, the army, the navy, and then we have the newer one that is in control of all of them. no one in the any of those groups anything about -- knew anything about law enforcement yet they gather all of the intelligence. when mr. rumsfeld said on 9.10 that they were missing $2 trillion from the government budget, no one has ever said anything about what happened to that money. guest: that is one issue that is part of the efficiency challenge. near as we can calculate, we have a $50-$60 billion per year, maybe even $100 billion in improper payments. these are payments that should not have been made. we have a huge amount of non- collected tax debt, loans and fees, that should have been paid that were not. and we have delinquent taxes that have not been collected. but those numbers together. that is maybe $700 billion that is out there owed that we have not collected. first of all, we have to identify that. the caller from south carolina says to

right now i think the problem is in washington and not elsewhere in the land. when we go to the ballot box and we exert our will, we need to be grown up and informed and intelligent about that, but i think we all want a better caliber of politics than we get from washington, and i don't think it's the american people's fault that what's going on in washington right now has the kind of tenor it does. >> is president obama lacking initiative, do you think? >> i think he's trying very hard to lead right now. i'm a little confused about why he came into the picture so late. there's this recurring theme in his presidency. it's there also in his campaign. he seems to hold back and hold back and rush in at the final hour. maybe that was a smart strategy here. i don't think we'll know how to evaluate it all until we see the end result. it did seem for a long time, maybe too long a time, he was holding back and not coming in to kind of try to bring the parties together. i hope that wasn't lost time that's going to make a difference. >> commercial break. when we come bac

washington blames iran and islam in general for every. thing that is happening in the world the u.s. behaves and the caress of a villager in power and it seeks to condemn any nice little pause as leaving all the current crises and tribulations and such nations there for iran he's on the attention of the accusations coming from washington. a palestinians are currently intending to persuade the international community to recognize the postilion state in its nine hundred sixty seven borders what is iran's attitude towards this issue do you support the palestinians and their policy as. we are convinced that the whole of the palestinian land belongs to all palestinians and we will not accept anything that would involve i mean a part of palestine what we will only accept a single divided palestine in iran's opinion palestine belongs to the palestinians regardless of whether they are muslims christians or g.d.s. therefore we welcome and support any measures aimed at bringing about a palestine for all palestinians. but is a correct progress and r

that washington's actions are violating moscow's personal space. there are questions that remain unanswered if mess and threats against europe come from the south why is the us placing part of its military infrastructure in the north close to russia's borders this is the question that we can't get an answer to let me ask for legal guarantees the for system is not aimed at russia we're told there's a big conflict between republicans and democrats in congress and they start to explain that conflict but we're not interested in that what's important for us is that the u.s. is behind this project and they should provide security for all partners russia is very flexible if there are some fabricated political reasons they rejected our suggestion to integrate our means of anti missile defense then there's another scheme they could be cooperation between two independent system if nato wants to defend itself that's no problem but if russia wants to provide its own security so be it otherwise it's like when you come home and discover somebody else's bodyguard

or so in washington so we see that it's time. for us there's no certainty that there will be much progress but these discussions you can facials and considerations is a large step forward. given that north and south korea haven't had a peace treaty for fifty eight years so after so many years are the sides finally ready to make peace a thing of. the world that can arrive the day is the eighth anniversary of the. agreement was signed one hundred fifty three cents there and the decision has never been extraordinary in an interim it is interesting that south korea was not a signatory of the armistice agreement with north korea china and the united states . simply refused and signed the armistice agreement so seeing monody the president or republican was so adamant the marginal and unify the country. and the signature so we thought about the peace treaty and the north koreans have been requesting suggesting that these people who signed could be united some with the united states first of all since one thousand seventy five. probably

anything it's friday july twenty ninth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lucy capping off and watching our t.v. . well the race against the clock kicked into high gear at the eleventh hour here in washington earlier this evening house republicans finally passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling of course to cut twenty two billion dollars from next year's spending but it was largely a symbolic gesture in fact boehner might as well have added a pony to his bill he's not getting that either that's because legislation now has the senate with it where it is pretty much guaranteed to be voted down possibly as early as this evening and then of course it is back to square one and the senate majority leader will try to kick start the process of moving to a final vote on a new plan and while negotiations will continue behind closed doors for now the partisan debate rages on as of course there's the clock right there behind me now when it comes to america's prized triple rate pardon me it may already actually be too late that's not according to me that's according

peter doocy live now in washington with more details on this, peter?lly, as you said, metro buses here in d.c. have new cameras on the win shield that turn on anytime the bus makes a sudden move. it turns out, sudden moves was because of drivers on cell phone and because of that, 20 drivers have now been fired and 222 others suspended for other things. >> we found that 20 operators over the last few months have been using their cell phones in nonrevenue service, meaning without passengers, but again, were still driving the bus and makes it an unsafe situation. >> reporter: based on what the cameras are showing, metro bus says about 40% of their crashes could have been prevented, 5% higher than they estimated before they could see what's going on in the driver's seat, but the union that represents most metro bus drivers in d.c. say they were duped, quote, it's amazing when they convinced us to accept the cameras, they lied and said it was a training tool. it's not bad for all drivers. 80% the cameras are turned on it's not for anything illegal and bus r