was called washington. it was george washington who had chosen the spot on the potomac river for the city. it was george washington who had spent a good deal of his presidency overseeing the construction. of the city and it was of course, ultimately george washington who gave his name to the place so he didn't really start calling it washington himself until the end of his presidency. but i think he hoped that the city could do what he really no longer could which is hold together the feuding in factions tearing apart the country and of course, there are some irony today as we think about it the that george, washington. during the prime is life really was the man who most americans would have said was the force who held together america and say when we look at the city of washington so often i think it's almost synonymous with political divisions. and so that's an irony that actually sort of attracted me to the story and made me realize that in some ways the story of washington's last years with all this fe

washington helps decide what buildings would go and it's. so washington, washington, washington.is his project. it is his near obsession. so washington picks the brilliant frenchman, which was a great selection. he was classically educated, most importantly for washington he shared washington's vision of a romanesque grand capitol with larger boulevards, public squares filled with monuments and memorials. he did not like jefferson's vision of a small federal town. so he does washington's bidding and brantley designs the capitol. unfortunately, he will answer to no one but washington and turns out to be more difficult than he was worth. some accounts suggest he was fired other said he quit spray they both happened about the same time. so the answer is c, all the above. next slide. here's the image of the capitol city which you will recognize today. right there running horizontal next to the potomac river near the p potomac is a national mall. we all recognize today you can see the boulevard that intersects and so forth and so on. inspired by rome in part inspired by paris. even th

, the city of washington was called washington it was george washington who had chosen the spot on theotomac river, for the city, it was george washington who had spent a good deal of his presidency, overseeing the construction of the city. and it was of course, ultimately george washington who gave his name to the place. they didn't start calling it washington itself into the end of his presidency. but again i think he hoped that the city could do, would he no longer could. which is hold together, the feuding and factions, tearing apart the country and of course there is some irony today when you think about it, the fact that george washington, during the prime of his life, was the man that most presidents are most people would say that was the force that held everybody together. and now when you think of washington, it is synonymous with political division. so that is the irony of the story. you realize in some ways, the story of washington's last years, with all these feuding and fashions in factions, was also the beginning of the city of washington. >> to all of us who are going on

but also, as he put it tomorrow to washington, following washington's death in 1799, washington is my he just to success. and so, he stuck with washington and washington stuck with him during the remaining years. jefferson's revolution was extremely different from hamilton's. while hamilton was with washington, and in battle fighting in seven major engagements during the war, risking his life. at one point being surprised by a british patrol when they shot at him having to dive off his boat into the cold river and swam for safety, jefferson served first in the house of vortices then in congress and while in congress, this 15 months in congress, was the principal author of the declaration of independence. almost immediately after independence was declared however, jefferson left congress and returned to virginia because he was interested in reform. the continental congress was simply going to be a managerial body that managed the conduct of the war and the conduct of the army. and hamilton wanted to return -- jefferson rather wanted to return to virginia and carry out as many reforms a

washington. >> washington dies and then months later a new capital city opens with the name washington and it was very flitting that the city of washington was called washington. it was george washington who had chosen the spot on the potomac river for the city. it was george washington who had spent a good deal of his presidency overseeing the construction of the city, and of course, george washington who gave his name and didn't start calling it president himself until the end of the his presidency. he wanted to call feuding and terrible factions feuding in the country and there is some irony when we think about it. george washington during the prime of his life was the man who held the city of washington together and when you will look at philadelphia, that's the irony that made me attracted to the store ay and maybe may realize that all the feuding and nationals is also the story of the beginning of the city of washington. >> all of us who are on the back of the there observe that it changes the way we view washington's last years. how did this history change your view of him overa

washington's writing table. prior to her 1911 death and division of her estate, britannia possessed a large collection of family papers, including the two george washington letters sparks mentioned. she also owned letters of condolence that were received by martha washington from president john adams and other former members of her husband's cabinet. since britannia's father, thomas peter, served as one of the executors of martha washington's estate, the archive held important documents about the settlement of the estate, other correspondence, including some letters between thomas peter and george washington about the sale of tobacco, and letters from britannia's siblings written while they were away at school in philadelphia. in contrast to the archive of family papers and objects that britannia possessed in the 1890's, the bulk of george washington's correspondence was not publicly accessible, as it was held by the state department. originally purchased from george corbin washington, the president's grandnephe

his book is titled whitman in washington becoming the national poet in the federal city. he's joined by katrina bernadini contributing editor at the walt whitman archive the national archives foundation provided the video for this program. i'm katarina bernardini and i'm here with professor ken prize author of whipping in washington becoming the national poet in the federal city, which was just published by the oxford university press and it's available for 29.95 in hardback. welcome ken good to see you. so it's wonderful to see you too katarina. yeah, it's great to be here with you. so can you tell us more about the idea? for how this book came to you? how did it start as a project for you? well, like many whitman scholars, i've been fascinated by whitman's relationship to a variety of cities. he's probably most famously associated with the new york area, long island, new york city, but he also spent some formative months in new orleans as you know, and others know and then a decade in washington dc the time period that i focused on and then at the end of his life, of co

i was giving my speech about what was happening in washington right outside of where washington gave his speech for the first transition of power we sometimes do take for granted these traditions of democracy that we've nurtured for so long and we can see how quickly the norms can be violated and go off the rail. >> one of the things washington is also known for is this encouragement of nonpartisan thinking, thinking of the country first and service and figuring out a way to work together. you really made a career out of being a bipartisan leader in a state that is traditionally thought of as democratic. a republican governor there. how do you do that, how do you work with all sides in a way that we see at the national level? >> washington was perhaps the one i remember most is the first president focused on bipartisanship and in the last speech and the farewell address he talks about the fact that there's too much partisanship and he was concerned for the nation. it's something i've always been passionate about and when i first took office and was elected, my first inaugural address

in washington sends their son to his namesake to george washington. but that kind of bravery is wonderful to read about. monroe's words writes in his autobiography about how we did this. very talented and very quiet. she is almost the jacqueline kennedy of the founding first ladies. she is a bit regal. she had think is ms. represented by some as aloof. it's the case she has an old-fashioned politeness and she sought that. >> we can talk to submit about the contrast between the madison administration of the ways they entertained. because dolley madison for example was a very powerful figure in d.c. politics. there followed by james and elizabeth, how did their time in france shaped their ways that they create a small republican court in the washington and that. >> and think they monroe's are both very influenced in france. not just by thinking but also by furniture. they bought furniture that they actually took to the white house after it was reopened. some of that is still there today. in fact jacqueline kennedy made a point of making sure some of tho

my thinking about whitman in washington and reflection on these 3,000 documents. i think the thing that has been disturbing is to recognize that whitman was there and the attorney general's office during reconstruction when the united states had a chance for a second revolution and it could remake the country on more equitable just grounds and it could recognize the rights of all people regardless of race and ethnicity and before long and working in the attorney general's office. the department of justice was formed in 1870. he continued in working there one of the big things the department of justice did and it's early years was to be back the klan and so whitman had his hand on more than 30 documents that deal with clan violence paramilitary groups in the south. so he contributed to that effort as a secretary, but in his own writings in his poems in his prose in his contributions to journalism. he never speaks of the clan at all. he doesn't speak about it in comments to horse travel. and so this is disappointing because whitman, you know, we often think of him a

and the washington farewell address is the only speech read every year on or around washington's birthdayt tradition goes back a long time and the reader alternates between a democrat and republican but then washington was naÏve about things as he was decrying partisanship also with the constitution basically understanding human motivation in writing and the federal papers. and then to the checks and balances notion with the hamilton madison and john j but the human tendency and impression and how that needed to be set off against each other to diffuse power not to the authoritarian on one side or the other. but washington was above that and may be pleasantly naÏve. there were things in the senate to bring about more harmony. and this fact that the senate does this be of come to this very challenging impact on the capital on january 6. more than half voted to overturn electoral college results from pennsylvania and arizona. and in the senate, eight out of 51 republicans, 15 percent. so what explains the difference between only 15 percent trying to overturn objections with more than house

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weill. this going to be enough for congress there in washington?— there in washington?re in washington? well, that's a good question _ there in washington? well, that's a good question because _ there in washington? well, that's a good question because congress i there in washington? well, that's a | good question because congress has been very passionate about this issue, and i'm talking about a bipartisan group of lawmakers who have pursued this issue, who have called out the crown prince for some time now and have been pushing for the publication of this report, and some of them have been saying that if the crown prince is guilty of authorising this operation as the intelligence assessment says, then he should be punished for it, that if others are sanction for it, if the people around him or sanction for it, which is the case, and we have had a few more of those sanctions announced today than he should be sanctioned as well, so i thank you will continue to hear those kinds of calls especially from democratic congress people, the steps taken so far though suggest tha

there is washington square.remember, when it was redone, greenwich village suddenly the whole area was greenwich village. six avenue was no longer dmz zone in between the right side and the wrong side. it was all greenwich village. mcdougal street became the main street where whole -- you had all those tea shops run by days, you had the apartments don't play house, you had police. when i came along in the 19 fifties and sixties, it was the -- this is where we went to see bob dylan when he first came to new york, peter, paul and married the first year they were here. the first year they were together, joe and bias. the cafÉ -- anyway, we saw mcdougal street so you see, even in the 1920s, we dougall street was the heart of the commercial part of greenwich village. there was a second kind of subsector and that was christopher street and church and square and that's what goes to the subway. and that became a second center and that became identified during the 20th century. and of course, that's where the stone wall

>> i don't think franklin and washington had a particularly close relationship. they certainly appreciated one another and had great respect for each other but, they just didn't have much opportunity to interact. i mean, franklin was away for most of the war and then, washington retired when franklin returned and then they do serve together and the constitution of -- and there was no doubt that in franklin's mind that washington was the only person that would be able to become the president, and then the whole idea, the home concept of the presidency is to be built around george washington. and when people in france criticize the constitution for having arch a chief executive who could essentially be an office in perpetuity, france, as well it's going to be george washington, so it's going to be fine, we have nothing to worry about. and for jefferson, he said one time that they were only two preeminent people in the colonies, washington and franklin. and everybody else was the b team. like, you know, not quite on the same level. but, one thing that franklin roose

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if we could switch to the picture of washington, please. this is gilbert stewart's famous portrait of washington done while he was president and you can see the kind of legal trappings there, the crimson drapery's, the very formal clothing washington is wearing, the equivalent of white tie and tails today, and that was definitely the image washington projected in his presidency, almost as two or three steps down from a king, but the same kind of mold, even though he was as hot a revolutionary as any of them and could quite easily have been a king had he chose to. the trappings and imagery were a distance kind of revered figure. next slide, please, of jefferson in the fur collar. . in contrast, this is a portrait of jefferson done as president by rembrandt peel, a fairly well-known artist. the image here is one of simplicity, almost kind of a rustic gentlemen, if you will, as opposed to regal imperial figure, very plain background. a wolf skin cloak with a fur collar projects dignity and authority, but not this imposing kind of imperial pres

most importantly washington established the practice of the speech itself. which is not required in the constitution also, he established the precedent that the speech would be about principles and not about policy. so let's talk a little bit about the history of the address and how some of the practices of the address have changed over time now george washington and both of his inaugurations took the oath of office first and then gave his inaugural addresses that was changed by john adams in 1797 instead adams gave his speech first and then took the oath of office and we'll see that continued for a number of decades. the first president to give his inaugural address and take the oath of office at the united states capitol was thomas jefferson in 1801. and in 1817 the address and the oath move outside to be routinized outside as much as possible. of course, we know there are exceptions in american history where it does not take place outside. for example, taft in 1909 and ronald reagan in 1985 both gave their address and took the oath inside at the capitol a

so his chief goals on route to washington. getting to washington alive. nipping secession in the bud winning over northerners who hadn't voted for him principally democrats. introducing himself so people who didn't know him or all of the above or something else that that's pretty comprehensive harold. that's that's very good. might add one. that became extremely important to me and i'm a little embarrassed to talk about it as i think he was but i also think it's important and it's suddenly i would say in the air in 2022. which was sprinkling over his listeners a kind of mystical attachment to the union to the idea of american history as something very special that it happened in human history, and we we also know that lincoln was the first to poke fun at himself. and had a side of him that was anecdotal and even you know kind of course in certain ways, but there was also something quasi mystical and spiritual in him which seward observed. it was a nice comment. i remember i think seward might have said it to to the addams family where he often went for di

that would be washington, dc.titutional, they are aware of it, they are doing it reanyway. who are these 38 members of the senate?mb we will name all of them, so you should know exactly who they are. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: let's see. can washington, d.c., become a state? it's not a state. it's a pretty small city, probably the most dysfunctional city in america. but can we make it a state if we wanted to? let's check our constitution. there it is. article one section 8, washington, d.c., is not a state. it can't be. it is a federal jurisdiction. that's pretty clear. anyone who read it would know. but members of congress either haven't read it or don't care. they're trying to make d.c. a state anyway. quite a news story. for that, rick leventhal joins us. >> it's delaware's senator who is leading the effort to pass a d.c. statehood bill along with more than three dozen others who we are showing you here. carper says it would rectify a historic injustice because the 700,000 residents in dort endure taxation without represen

ankara believes washington is supporting a terrorist organization, washington says that's not the case. the anger and fury reveals how much tension still exists between the two countries. brent: the latest tonight from istanbul. thank you. here are some of the other stories making headlines around the world. in nigeria, the next director general of the world trade organization has been confirmed. that makes her the first woman in first african to head the body. the confirmation comes after u.s. president joe biden her candidacy. jott -- donald trump had blocked her candidacy, paralyzing the organization. reese has experienced its heaviest snowfall in 20 years. people have been trapped in their homes and there have been power cuts and commutes have been disrupted. the extreme cold is expected to last until wednesday. the world health organization has granted emergency mart -- emergency authorization to astrazeneca upon coronavirus vaccine. it should enable millions of doses to be shipped worldwide. it is cheaper and easier to handle than the pfizer bactine -- pfizer vaccine, so it shoul

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we had no national memorial in washington. it is to the credit of the good citizens of kansas city that they took it upon themselves to erect a memorial there. we have been pleased to partner with them over the past several years. >> it is a tremendous honor to help lead some of the tours with the national memorial to the memorials on the western front. we look forward to that continued partnership when we are able to travel again. can you speak a bit more to the history of the national world war i museum and memorial and how it started so early? >> the u.s. response was fundamentally different than other places around the world. in australia, where i grew up, and in many european countries it is a top-down legislative action that establishes a memorial. in the u.s., there was a reliance on people being engaged . that is the story of the national world war i museum and memorial. it started with the armistice in 1918. a group came together. purging was from missouri. -- pershing was from missouri. many towns across the country

of supporting terrorism and demanded that washington support turkey's stance. he says in another bit of us if we are together with if you're in nato. if we're to continue our unity in the weald and in nato. then you will act sincerely towards us and it is then you will stand with us. if the terrorists did all this our lives take us now to our correspondent dorian jones who's standing by in stamboul so during are we seeing any movement here from washington trying to you know make amends if you will with turkey. well it does appear that washington has recognized has made a major misstep in its initial statement where appear to give equal waiting to. events over the killing of these 13 turkish citizens and a terrorist organization the p.k. k. which is what it is designated by the united states in the european union and from un chris perspective this is calls out to outrage and fury and now it does appear that washington is in damage limitation mode and need blinken the secretary of state spoke with his turkish counterpart. in what was seen as a way of assuaging tu

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um, washington sculptured it udall made. he you know, virginia commissioned the sculpture and then franklin had to find somebody in france to actually executed and he did and he brought udon with him when he returned from france to america and then udal went down to virginia. and sculpted it from life and so that was something that method lasting and it's extraordinary sculpture. i mean for anyone's house for anyone who isn't familiar. it's at the virginia state capitol, which designed is an extraordinary sculpture. so let's we'll wrap up soon here. what a couple of other font kind of final. questions so in some ways as you noted franklin and washington at the time as jefferson. noted we're sort of the you know, franklin and washington were the the two members of the revolutionary kind of leadership who had this international, you know just cache or an above anyone else, but i would almost hazard that today the two to the short list of people that that most people think about when they think about the american revolution des

in 1971 what were the laws and laws of gathering in washington? mr.oberts: the national mall had become a center of dissent, a place where people petitioning for a redress of grievances were together. it became a first amendment embodied on the mall. for the most part these protests, these demonstrations on the mall -- you had your permit from the national park service. most at the time groups were given that permit. in 1971 the may day folks asked for permit camp on an area called west potomac park between the lincoln and thomas jefferson memorials. the park service granted them that. in the weekend before the protests that were supposed to begin with the blockade, 40,000 or 50,000 people showed up at this campground and camped out with tents in order to prepare for this traffic blockade. that was all legitimate under the government permits they obtained. it also included the west potomac park campout. all day and all night, a rock concert which began on saturday afternoon at was supposed to go through sunday afternoon as a way to gather as many peop

though we note he's still owner of the "washington post."spiracy theorists, let flummox them. i think it's considered a matter of established fact in the conspiracy theorist world is that your wake-up in the morning is jeff bezos and you talk as he directs the coverage of the "washington post," he's the last person you speak to at night. what is the truth? how active is the relationship with the ownership? >> i almost never talk to him, as matter of fact. so he doesn't interfere whatsoever in our news coverage, he doesn't suggest stories, suppress stories, critique or criticize stories, none of that. he just doesn't. he expects me to lead our news organization, he has trust in the leadership of our newsroom. he gives us the independence that we need. and he expects us to run the newsroom with independence and integrity. he just doesn't get involved in the news operations of the "washington post." >> how does this work for you now. you're probably still figuring some of this out, but i think by birth you are a florida man. do you get the marg

[applause] ladies and gentlemen, tim constantine of the map -- of the washington times. >> the washington poll for as long as i can remember. it is a great measure every year of where conservatives in america stand. you are unlikely to get much of this information from the mainstream media. for we get to the results, let's do a quick poll right here. when you are trying to find information that is what people in the heartland of america think, how many of you think cnn is a good source? [booing] how about msnbc? [booing] how many think cpac is a great place to, get information? [applause] charlie, thank you for the annual reality check. the most popular part is the presidential poll. we look at, who would you like to be the presidential nominee of the republican party in the next cycle? i have got to tell you, what is really cool about this is you look at all the names on there and you look at how many of them spoke at cpac this year. they understand this is where to come and reach the people that actually are focused on the issues and the republicans have a very deep edge. for baseball,

washington post and the three of you starting us off. appreciate it. >>> coming up, today's good and not so good pandemic news. trying to comprehend the constantly conflicting guidance about protecting yourself and increasingly in the light of foreign enemies on our soil. >>> and later, he's seen a lot in his four-plus decades in journalism. we will ask outgoing washington post executive editor marty barron about seeking the truth, getting it out there, and telling it clearly, especially now. all of it as "the 11th hour" is just getting underway on this wednesday night. y night. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. call coventry direct to learn more. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized that we needed a way to supplement our income. our friends sold their policy to help pay for their medical bills and that got me thinking. maybe selling our policy could help with our retirement. i'm skeptical, so

other news washington sold more than a 1000000 barrels of oil seized in braids. much more potentially on the way to questions now being asked about who actually gets the money from. the new york governor comes under rising pressure over the reporting of care home. we speak to the daughter of perfect. everything the. political. good morning from russia this is r.t. international with me now in some of the morning's headlines that will detail for your company by the way so a key moment for the wiki leaks founder julian assange and his bid for freedom the u.s. has filed an appeal now against a british court decision not to extradite him is despite a petition sent to the u.s. justice department demanding president biden drop the case altogether signatories include rights groups like amnesty international and the american civil liberties union. indictment of mr sanchez threatens press freedom because much of the conduct described in the indictment is contact that journalists routinely and the day must engage in in order to do the work the public needs them to do in ou

washington subsidized google and facebook. washington subsidized twitter.se companies, these other megacorporations, the multinational companies, what have they done to repay the favor? they shipped our jobs to china, paid our workers poverty wages. they have violated all of the principles that we hold dear. that's what they have done. that's what these companies, that's what they live to do and the left is just fine with that. the left and these companies, these oligarchs, they can impose their agenda on the rest. that's what they're trying to do. so what are we going to do about it? that's the real question, isn't it? in this moment, from this moment of crisis, our country needs us to take a stand. so in this moment of crisis, our country needs us to stand up and say, we will not be ruled by giant corporations and the liberal elite. we won't be told what to do but the modern day oligarchs. what we need is a new nationalism, a new agenda to make the rule of the people real in this country, and give the people america back. give it back to them. give it bac

guest: i was in washington in 1971, i was a 19-year-old college to. was part of the mayday demonstrations. not in any way, shape or form as a leader. when the police were sweeping through the streets arresting not only people who were actually engaged in the activity in the streets, but anyone who looked like a demonstrator, who had the dress at the time, long hair, as i did, we were sent back as well. host: did it affect the course of direction of your career or interests? guest: certainly i think being involved in an event like that makes you much more interested in politics and the constitutional laws, so it definitely had something to do with my decision to become an investigative journalist. and i should say that after many years, looking back on this event, you start to wonder what was behind all these different decisions that were made, what are people on all sides of the issue saying? you see these events from your own point of view and i decided to try to investigate, to find out as much as i could. host: americans have been living through a

if we could switch to the picture of washington, please. this is gilbert stewart's famous portrait of washington done while he was president, and you can see the kind of regal trappings there, the guilt furniture, the crimson draperies, the very formal clothing washington's wearing. i'm told it's sort of the equivalent of white tie and tails today, very formal, almost imperial sort of projection of image, and that was definitely the image that washington projected in the presidency almost as -- one or two or three steps down from the king, but the same sort of mold, even though he was as hot a revolutionary as any of them and could have easily been a king if he'd chosen to. the trappings and the imagery is a very distant kind of revered figure. next slide, please, of jefferson in the furred collar. in contrast, this is a portrait of jefferson done as president by rembrandt peel. a fairly well-known artist, beautiful painting, i think, and the image projected here is one of simplicity, almost kind of a rustic gentleman, if you will, as oppos

one of its directive was to establish a memorial in washington, d.c. next edwin fountain, the former vice chair, looks back at the history of world war i commemoration and details the years long quest with the d.c. memorial. he is joined by matthew naylor, head of the memorial in kansas city, home to the nation's existing national memorial. the museum hosted the discussion provided the video. >> edwin, matt, thank you for joining us for this lunch and learn education about world war i memorials and what is happening in kansas city and washington, d.c. >> great. thank you to be with you. >> good to see you as always. >> edwin, you are working on the work of the commission. can you tell us more? edwin: abm is almostc is always yours. we were chartered in 1923 and given the mission of establishing monuments throughout the american battlefield of europe after the great war to commemorate and honor the service and achievements of american armed forces in world war i. our first chairman was general john pershing who had been commander of the american expedit

>> some of them were' outsidede washington, some of them were inside washington. but they were all people who had done the job. they were all people who had not been involved -- here's where we made the difference. we said, look, we know most ttew people are republicans or democrats. some independents. that'ss fine. we don't mind what party you belong to. but if you work on a recent o re campaign of any ntsort, republicans or democrats, then e we can't have you because you've been partisan too recently. f oft if you've got the expert expertise we want you. very screen that staffff hard and i was very proud of them.om >> tomeone a kean, former chairo 9/11 commission.. governor, somebody asked the question about the people that eventually will come in front of this commission, if they should be questioned under oath. >> yes. we questioned everybody under oath.ll >> from johner: in louisiana, republican line, hello. >> caller: yes, governor. i think we need a big reality t check. comparing 9/11 commission to -- this is 3,000 deaths to 2. you know, you guys have got t