they defile the memory of washington, jefferson, lincoln and roosevelt. today we will set history and history's record straight. before these figures were immortalized in stone they were american giants, in full flesh and blood talent men's intrepid deeds unleashed the greatest leap of human advancement the world has ever known. tonight i will tell you and most importantly the use of our nation the true stories of these great great men. from head to george washington represented the strength, grace and dignity of the american people, from a small volunteer force of citizen farmers he created the continental army out of nothing and rallied them to stand against the most powerful military on earth. 3 eight long years, through the brutal winter - valley forge, through setback after setback on the field of battle he led those patriots to ultimate triumph, when the army had dwindled to a few thousand men at christmas of 1776, when defeat seemed absolutely certain he took what remained of his forces on the daring nighttime crossing of the delaware river, they m

lived today we paid tribute to the exceptional lives that extraordinary legacies of george washington thomas jefferson abraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt. and i am here is your president too pretty lame before the country. and before the world this monument will never be desecrated.

today we pay tribute to the exceptional lives and extraordinary legacies of george washington, thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt. [applause] i am here as your president to proclaim before the country, and before the world, this monument will never be desecrated. these heroes will never be defaced. [cheers and applause]

today we pay tribute to the exceptional lives of the extraordinary legacies of george washington, thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln, and teddy roosevelt. [cheers and applause] i am here is your president to proclaim before the country and before the world this monument will never be desecrated.

for my many washington, jefferson, gran washington, jefferson, grant, nt perfect, slave owners but in broad spectrum of their life and times and their contributions are striking and their statues and monuments need to remain on display perhaps indicating that in addition to all that is known, making the point that jefferson helped slaves. that is a valid historical point. does not rise to the level of tearing down the jefferson memorial or monticello, the presidential home outside charlottesville. there is room for meaningful conversation. i do not believe ever mobs should be tearing down statues or anything else >> welcome. thank you for tuning and we are looking at the timing and accessible work titled grandstanding

openly attacking the legacies of every person on mount rushmore they defile the memory of washington jefferson lincoln and roosevelt today we will set history and history's record straight. the was. before these figures were immortalized in stone they were american giants in full flesh and blood gallant men whose intrepid deeds unleashed the great is leap of human advancement the world has ever known tonight i will tell you and most importantly the youth of our nation the true stories of these great great men. from head to toe george washington represented the strength grace and dignity of the american people from a small volunteer force of citizen farmers he created the continental army out of nothing and rallied them to stand against the most powerful military on earth through 8 long years through the brutal winter at valley forge through setback after setback on the field of battle he led those patriots to ultimate triumph when the army had dwindled to a few 1000 men at christmas of 1776 when defeat seemed absolutely certain he took what remained of his forces on a daring night time crossin

they defiled the memory of washington, jefferson, lincoln, and roosevelt.plause] pres. trump: before these figures were immortalized in stone, they were american giant in full flesh and blood. deedst men whose intrepid unleashed the greatest leap of human advancement the world has ever known. tonight i will tell you, and most importantly, the youth of our nation the true stories of these great, great men. from had to do, george washington -- head to toe, george washington represented the strength, grace and dignity of the american people. from a small force of citizen farmers, he created the continental army out of nothing and rallied them to stand against the most powerful military on earth. years, eight long through the brutal winter at valley forge, through setback after setback on the field of battle, he led those patriots to ultimate triumph. dwindled to ahad few thousand men at christmas of defeat seemed absolutely certain, he took what remained of his forces on a daring nighttime crossing of the delaware river. they marched through nine miles of frig

rushmore figures, washington, jefferson, roosevelt and lincoln, in the same light as the confederate at started a lot of h this discussion. explain why not. some people will point to the fact that washington and jefferson owned slaves. >> yeah, there's no question that washington and jefferson and all of our leaders have disappointed us. that they were stuck maybe in the context of their times. that they did things that we are wishing they hadn't done, but u that's different from the confederate generals and the confederate leaders. they should be judged, those other presidents, in terms of the totality of what they did. if they helped build a nation, provide the words for the declaration of independence. if they carried us through the depression and world war ii, but the confederate general for trying to tear down the union, they were enslaving people as a permanent thing they hoped, in their own confederate nation. i understand the movement, transformtive movement right now, to understand the impact not only of slavery, but racism on our country and as long as those protests are pea

up with a fireworks spectacular and included a flyover by the blue angels in the shadow of washington, jefferson, lincoln and roosevelt. the president focused on the movement to remove confederate monuments. he claimed that left-wing mobs are removing statues of the founding fathers. >> our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out history, defame heroes, erase values and indoctrinate our children. angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, to face our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. >> he only made a brief mention of coronavirus and few masks were seen. the president offered support for law enforcement think the attack on liberty must be stopped. >> the radical ideology attacking the country advances under the banner of social justice. both justice and socie they want to silence us. we will not be silenced. >> there were tense moments before the arrival as officers broke up a protest by native american activists. about 15 people were arrested. >>> the company that is helping to put on the fireworks show at mount rushmore usua

washington, jefferson, lincoln, heroes. they would want us to be talking about the future, your future. everything we do here is about you. it is not necessarily -- they would wanted to be about looking forward, not looking back. let's think about, what are the values, vision, perspective that we enshrined and how that benefits our children, rather than having a big fight about whether somebody is worth it. we know they are not worth it if they committed treason against the u.s.. thank you all very much. >> thank you. today, dr. jill biden is joined by elizabeth warren for a discussion on reopening the schools. watch live at 5:00 p.m. on c-span. next, a discussion on improving policing with keith ellison and dave yost.

washington, jefferson, lincoln, heroes. us to be talking about the future, your future. everything we do here is about you. they not necessarily -- would wanted to be about looking forward, not looking back. thes think about, what are perspective that we enshrined and how that benefits our children, rather than having a big fight about whether somebody is worth it. we know they are not worth it if they committed treason against the u.s.. thank you all very much. >> thank you. >> the u.s. supreme court handed down two rulings involving access to president trump's finances today. the justices ruled the manhattan district attorney can access president trump's personal and financial business records, including tax returns. the court also ruled to send back to lower courts the case concerning congressional subpoenas for president trump's financial records. you can read those decisions at c-span.org. today, the house armed hears frommmittee defense secretary mark esper and general mark milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff on the defense department's rowlandson forstma

right well looks like they're going for the heroin here because they're going after washington and jefferson just like the president said well you know you got to like this you know history history isn't always changing in adapting thing and whenever we're entering into a new era you have to look at what came out of the old error and say do we want that still to me my personal feelings on it is simply this it's a statue if i want to read about the people the statue represents put it in a museum don't put it out in public display if it's offensive to half the public if it represents slavery for represents the the pain of our past put them in a museum and let us you will mayor you know they get to me and say you know this is this is all about change for the future and if the next 2 big generation say we don't want these you know we don't want these ideas idols sitting in our parks we don't want these people that the half the nation is my father said you know these people who are traitors represented in our parks that we don't want them there as far as washington and jefferson but we can't get

it's not about washington and jefferson.t's about alexander stevens, read what he said about people. it's about the president of the confederacy whose statue is up there, who committed treason against the united states. so that's the clarity that we should have. some of it is the states have put them there. the states may want to review. but in the meantime, while they may be in the capitol, we can decide where they are in the capitol. thank you all very much. happy fourth of july. take care. keep a distance. wash your hands. happy fourth. thank you. \[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] kevin mccarthy talked about the

they defile the memory of washington, jefferson lincoln and roosevelt. today we will set history. and history's record straight. the for these big news. were immortalized in stone. they were american giants. in fall flesh and blood gallant men. who's intrepid deeds unleash the great is leave of human advancement. the world has ever known. tonight i will tell you and most importantly the youth of our nation, the true stories of these great great man. >>from head to toe george washington represented the strength. grace and dignity of the american people. >>from a small volunteer force of citizen farmers. he created the continental army out of nothing. and rally them to stand against the most powerful military. on earth. through 8 long years. through the brutal winter at valley forge. through setback after setback on the field of battle. he led those patriots to ultimate triumph. when the army had dwindled to a few 1000 men that christmas of 1776. when defeat. seemed absolutely certain. he took what remained of his forces on a daring nighttime crossing of the delaware river. they mar

erasing the american history i enter in after they were confederates we already see going after washington jefferson and lincoln and andrew jackson and teddy roosevelt and aguero who peddle chevron and everybody else you could think of are connected to the history of this country i don't know who or then was a great revolution about when read rather proxies and who our and it is and planting a new identity on the country that's what we're looking at today but i think anybody who thinks that the new who woke dictatorship. is going to be more peaceful on the world stage if it takes our i think you're sadly mistaken i agree with george about how aggressive. or all she is you know great britain are are our handy side but i don't think it will get any better once this transformation takes place in the united states and you know it's not just confederate statues that we're talking about here coming under fire whether you know wherever they stand whether it's the columbus circle in new york city where protesters are demanding be city remove the statue of christopher columbus shouting down with colonizers s

they defiled the memory of washington, jefferson, lincoln, and roosevelt.lause] pres. trump: before these figures were immortalized in stone, they were american giant in full flesh and blood. gallant men whose intrepid deeds unleashed the greatest leap of human advancement the world has ever known. tonight i will tell you, and most importantly, the youth of our nation the true stories of these great, great men. from head to toe, george washington represented the strength, grace, and dignity of the american people. from a small force of citizen farmers, he created the continental army out of nothing and rallied them to stand against the most powerful military on earth. through eight long years, through the brutal winter at valley forge, through setback after setback on the field of battle, he led those patriots to ultimate triumph. when the army had dwindled to a few thousand men at christmas of 1776, when defeat seemed absolutely certain, he took what remained of his forces on a daring nighttime crossing of the delaware river. they marched through nine mile

. >> the president going to remarks it not rushmore washington, jefferson, roosevelt and lincoln is different with a fireworks display at a flyover from the blue angels, 7500 expected to attend as the president shared his message ahead of the weekend celebrations. >> i want to thank the courageous men and women who serve their country in uniform. we vowed to honor your sacrifice by forever defending the rights, freedoms and principles and risks your entire life to defend. >> he is met by protests, harold fraser calling for removal of the not rushmore memorial blasting tonight's even saying we are forced to witness the lashing of our land with pomp, arrogance and fire, hoping our sacred land survive, this ahead of the fourth of july event planned this weekend. major demonstrations expected in seattle, los angeles, boston, in the nation's capital where house minority leader kevin mccarthy says it is time to protect stages. >> whether it is a monument of abraham lincoln freeing the slaves or four a greatest presidents democrats no longer view the richness of our country. the mob the democrats en

it's the that's the the ultimate conclusion i mean if this is continue to be pursued then washington jefferson the whole lot of them have to go i mean where do you draw the line right you draw the line in telling the truth history and memory again are not the same but they are related you need very big const you hear he's reading in this country when it comes to history in the states for that matter we have to tell the truth and that i think it's part of the problem here is that we're not telling the truth about a lot of a lot of people who these monuments and the statues are ready to yes george washington was a great man he was founder he was one of the founding fathers of america he was our 1st president under our current structure but he also was a slaveholder right that is often left out of the huge st george washington so to your question so the university changes say absolutely not i don't necessarily think that it should but what we should do is tell the complete florida history and one of the reasons why we still have the terrible race relations in the states is because we have not tol

president washington for obviously the birth of our nation. president jeffersonor the growth of our nation. president lincoln for the development of our nation, and teddy roosevelt for the preservation of our nation. this is a symbol of american exceptionalism. and i believe that there is no way of white supremacy. brian: last president there bush 41 also a combat veteran like you. and you feel some people are looking at these presidents and saying well america stole this land from the indians and put their presence in the mountain, how dare they. >> well, that obviously has been a dispute over the years since the time about 1876. but that case has actually been litigated to the united states supreme court. we are sympathetic to their feelings on the issue but i do believe it was not meant to desecrate the land but to honor america and honor our state of south dakota. brian: are you worried about dryness in the area and embers lighting a fire. >> we are always worried about it but we have taken proper precautions to mitigate those potential damages and i think we

. >> reporter: in mount rushmore, washington, jefferson, a different treatment in recent weeks with the fireworks, 7500 expected to to attend is the president shares its message ahead of the weekend's celebrations. >> i think the courageous men and women who serve their country in uniform, we vowed to honor your sacrifice by defending the rights, freedoms and principles who risk your entire life to defend. >> reporter: harold fraser calling for removal of the mount rushmore memorial blasting tonight's event, to witness the lashing of our land, hoping for sacred lands survive ahead of major fourth of july for the weekend and major demonstrations expected in seattle, los angeles, boston, and dc, the president drawing a massive celebration but the mayor opposing it. >> we do not think this is in keeping with the best cd cnc parts of health guidance. >> reporter: house minority leader kevin mccarthy says it is time to do something about desecration of statues. >> whether it is a monument of abraham lincoln free and a slave or four of our greatest presidents democrats no longer view the rich

jefferson is fascinated by indian language. i don't see any of that fascination with washington.has got to have picked up phrases, key terms, but indian diplomacy is another aspect of it, not only conducted by one but through interpreters. you have interpreters not only interpreting languages but interpreting -- with the best of intentions this is a difficult sort of communication. washington's indian diplomacy is conducted to one or more interpreters and that is a complex issue in and of itself because sometimes indian diplomats who can speak english, when they are in treaty negotiations or come to philadelphia, insists on speaking their own languages i sometimes see that, they speak in their own language, a position of sovereignty. now they speak english, sometimes a prominent delaware chief before washington's time could speak english but always insisted on speaking delaware and having the english go through the interpretation. >> i talked to the university of oklahoma and similar encounters where in a formal occasion it would begin in native language and switch over. another

with that extent to jefferson, washington, other founding fathers as well?aller: that was a different era. they didn't betray the country. host: caroline, our caller. if you go to the atlantic website, they will show you pictures of monuments that have been taken down since the death of george floyd. it cites the removal of stonewall jackson, that picture from richmond, virginia. another one from richmond, the stonewall jackson site being fort, kentucky.k it also goes to show traffic cones and ropes remaining on the statue the morning after protesters attempted to topple it in richmond. , by the way,s too of some of those statues that have come down. in's go and hear from pam maryland, watford city, a supporter of these efforts. caller: good morning. is there a reason why we don't have a statue of adolf hitler? imagine we had such a statue in germany. wouldn't you be alarmed? they would be really, really mad about that. if we are considering all-black african-americans as americans, i think we owe them, we owe them the respect of not a constant reminder of p

task for saying that we should have a conversation about removing the statues of george washington and thomas jefferson i mean not supposed to criticize tammy duckworth in any way because she once served in the military most people just ignore her but when duckworth does speak in public you're reminded what a deeply silly and unimpressive person she is and what's long been considered out of bounds to question a person's patriotism it's a very strong charge and we try not ever to make it but in the face of all of this the conclusion can't be avoided these people actually hate america there's no longer a question about that to which duckworth a purple heart recipient who lost both legs in a battle in iraq responded in a tweet does talk a carlson want to walk a mile with my legs and tell me if i love america well joining me now to discuss is a man i'm proud to call a friend former fox news t.v. and radio host and author john gibson and you can check out his podcast by the way at john gibson dot com john duckworth then refuse an invite to appear on talk or show so tucker added coward to his list of her qua

what about the statues to washington, what about the jefferson memorial, what about mount rushmore? those okay to stay? >> there is no problem the statues. and not mix issues. what we've seen over and over again as some of our elected leaders try to make this about george washington, but it's about these confederate statues and many are erected in the 1930s and 40s to bring fear into the hearts of the conversation that we need to have. >> that's not the conversation we are having. >> we were surrendered to the lawless. look what happened to horace, he was gunned down. >> you are mixing apples and oranges. did you see his father on hannity crying about his son's slaughter? >> this is where i'm going to have to stop you. this is where i have to stop you because horace's death was horrible and this is about taking down the hateful statue that existed in this country that only uplifts the worst parts of the american history. >> we are having some problems with brad's audio so we will leave it there. brad and richard, we might talk about these very issues, either as he heads out to marin

his predecessors on that mountain, the irony, washington, jefferson, theodore roosevelt, abraham lincoln. he wants to be in their presence, but he doesn't want to act in their image or resemble their likeness as leaders. they have to be looking down on him with disdain. even the deep red state of texas now mandating masks. now, again, they want us all to wear masks. they're taking our liberty. that's the way you think the government would do it? that's not for everywhere and every situation. counties with 20 or more cases in texas. now, that happens to cover about 95% of texans, but that's because they didn't do it right. they're seeing record-breaking spikes along with florida which didn't do it right. the governor there boasting, where is it, where is the covid? you got your answer, brother. you broke your own record with more than 10,000 new cases reported yesterday. so how do we get out of this? the same way we knew when we got into it. let's bring in a very valuable health authority, dr. william schaffner. welcome back to "prime time." the good news is the rules haven't changed. now

eight freedom loving virginian akin to other freedom loving virginians like george washington, patrick heady, thomas jefferson and other founding fathers. while madison washington's story of revolt is a success story, unfortunately many attempts at slave revolts and escape were not successful. that's simply because the entire system at the local, state and national level was set up to preserve the institution of slavery. enslaved people and their allies were trying to resist or fighting against insurmountable odds in many cases. we see that in the example of danger field newbie. danger field newbie was one of the small group of men who joined the radical abolitionist john brown for his raid on the federal arsenal at harpers ferry in october 1950 -- 1859. this raid was part of a planned slaved revolt. john brown and his army were not only going to take over the weapons and harpers ferry, they were also going to add a new cache of weapons and march through the south distributing these weapons to the enslaved people they encountered would rise up and revolt. overthrow slavery in the united states. and john brown

about washington and jefferson is not that what they eventually did was a terrible thing as far as writing the constitution or the declaration of independence which eventually will open up freedom and liberty to numerous people is that they were talking about freedom and liberty while who explains so the d. indictment against them is that they were hypocritical in their entire process how they conceptualize freedom and what's asked suggest to descendants of people or descendants of indigenous people or anyone else who's been marginalized in the prestons country is that there were a number of men who were not willing to extend the full benefits of all that really they were talking about to start. and they were aware of that at the time and if you look at the debates they look at the federalist papers you look at the then it's the basis even of the declaration of independence i mean basically we're going to kick the can down the road they were over where they can say they didn't know any and they were very strong abolitionists and there were those there of course works we're going to on that

. >> mobs have dragged the statues of washington, jefferson, and grant through the dirt. >> mitch mcconnellas attacking the so-called cancel culture on the senate floor wednesday, the house was debating whether or not to remove 16 statues in closing the bust of roger tawney and author of dred scott decision that denied african-americans citizenship. on tuesday planned parenthood remove the name of its founder margaret sanger from its new york city clinic, she advocated for sterilization to stop the reproduction of "inferior peoples." >> that's surprising, giving out awards in her honor and touting her as a hero. now is a time of reckoning as it should be. >> a similar counseling for john muir, father of national parks. he founded the sierra club, they described him as a white supremacist. as many as 80 global and american companies and some often identified as progressive are also facing uncomfortable pressure, republican senator josh hawley introduced a bill on monday that would hold them accountable for what he says is slave labor in their supply chains, among those excited, nike, adidas,

george washington, jefferson as you mentioned, slave owners x yet they were true, true american heroesing to take the worst of minute and cancel them because of that, we're going to lose the good that people did too, the very good. lou: well, we're not -- >> [inaudible] has both. lou: and you get a quick last word, ed. >> a critical thing, let's have a dialogue. slavery was a great, great black mark on this country. we need to have a dialogue, and we need to basically make sure that our young people understand that the history and how we move forward in a positive way and to treat everybody decently and, basically, don't trash your history. >> amen. lou: one -- i can guarantee you this, that will be more than a die if they -- dialogue if they continue in this direction. it is beyond the pale to see what these left-wing mayors have accepted all because of their shared left u.s. ideology -- leftist ideology. it's sickennenning but it's not dispiriting. we -- i think it's going to be a real battle in the marketplace of ideas, this idea of revisionism of american history. ed rollins, micha

for all, he came out this week against tearing down statues or even bringing down statues of washington, jeffersonon. he picked aoc for one of his big environmental task forces, he hasn't really challenged his party's left wing in a way that bill clinton did in the '90s so people see what they want to see from joe biden. the big challenge biden has is when you have a political coalition that's so big that it encompasses socialists and moderate republicans, you're going to have to decide who you want to go to battle with, how you want to govern and how you want to campaign and biden hasn't done a whole lot of public events, hasn't taken a lot of questions from the media so he sort of living in this world are event where both moderate republicans and socialist me like him but he hasn't really stood for anything, it's hard to know where he stands on a lot of these issues surrounding the country. >> dana: last question for you, they campaign donations for both trump and biden are in, second quarter, the dnc tm, about 10 million done the trump campaign. i maintain that neither of these candidates will

and jefferson and lee, and men like lee, is that while washington and jefferson were and by our standards, thouht about ideas in an entirely anachronistic way, they also baked in the constitution the components that allowed people to dismantle the slave system. they built as much as they destroyed. i cannot say the same thing for the confederacy. >> cooper: professor hayter was appointed by richmond's mayor to the commission that's going to make recommendations on what should happen on monument avenue. >> hayter: there are 75 million people in the south who are the descendants of confederate soldiers. and who i am to tell them that they cannot celebrate their ancestor in a particular way? but i also have ancestors who were the victims of the slave system, and i see no reason why we can't find a usable way to tell two stories, or tell multiple stories. >> cooper: that tell the truth. >> hayter: not a romanticized version of the truth, where people are trying to absolve themselves from the deep inhumanities of what the confederacy stood for, but people who are willing t

pete: yeah, it's not social justifiable to tear down washington and jefferson and lynn son.ou can have a conversation about where we are as a country but to try to erase the founders of our nation, the folks who fought civil war that's not social justice, that's about tearing down america. that's the point the president made yesterday on july 3rd going into july 4th can we have that conversation without saying america is a bad place? that's the question the president is asking. jedediah: yeah. you can certainly have that conversation without desis he creating everything and destroying everything. this idea of the national guard and american heros is something that may appeal to a large majority of people say this is a place designated to pay tribute to our history where these statues are contextualized. of course that will not appeal to people who just want to sikh to destroy. they will not be happy unless it is completely destroyed there is a segment. john adams, susan b. anthony, frederick douglass that will be housed in there and could appeal to many people. we shall see.

>>washington washington and jefferson on mount rushmore got smallpox no one is immune to a novel viruss never hit us before. >>the faces on mount rushmore also a reminder of another issue americans are grappling with this independence day racism and there's no question that washington and jefferson and all of our leaders have disappointed us and what it means to be black in america i think is fair to sometimes question. >>whether america loves african americans as much as we love it. >>the recent course of human events leading to an independence day for the history books and washington nadia romero kron 4 news. >>4 police officers in aurora colorado are out of a job because of this picture it green acts of 2019 chokehold the police applied to lise mclean who later died interim chief vanessa wilson said today that she fired 3 officers for the incident in a 4th resigned, there were police association of directors says wilson brush her decision there were police department says that the photos were taken months after the incident. in october 2019 but wilson says that the people involved w

they may have been like jefferson and washington in that sense. this does not comport with anything. ,e can't take the constitution transformed by the 13th, 14th and 15th amendment. you can take the declaration and make any society. .e can't take the constitution we can't do anything with that and continue in peace in this country. david: or jefferson davis's 1200 page memoir. here is the quick question, we are living a moment where there are a lot of people. i will just name it, the 1619 that americansed should reconsider what the founding is, that the founding is really when slaves arrived and not the creation of the public out of the american revolution and the writing of the u.s. constitution. assumptionset of was out there anyway. i am not just blaming the 1619 project. there are a lot of people who said the founding was all racist anyway. it was all in the service of slavery. why not get rid of jefferson? i don't believe that necessarily. annette: i am destroying to respond to that. if you want to pick something other than 1776 as the foundi

but if you look at them with washington, jefferson, lincoln, and teddy roosevelt.y would have been appalled by this spectacle and -- and -- at mt. rushmore tonight. in the face of what the public-health officials have been arguing. stay apart. social distance. cnn's reporting tonight something we did not know. the chairs. when people sit down in the chairs there and -- in -- in south dakota. the chairs are all wired together. think of that. i mean, that's got to be the craziest way to social distance we can imagine. >> listen. it contradicts the health advice of every doctor in this country. bakari, i wonder, the president's intention, clearly, is to park himself in front of a national monument. talk about defending national monuments. perhaps, even confederate monuments. but -- but, is it possible to overestimate his political brilliance on this venue? could he stand in front of those four presidents, and appear diminished? appear like a small man, compared to those men? >> but the question is to whom, right? and so, i think the answer to the question is, yes. to

sculpted heads of presidents washington, jefferson, lincoln, and theodore roosevelt blasted out of the ancient granite between 1927-1941 by 400 workers, directed by goodson borglum. earlier, he was recruited by the daughters of the confederacy to carve the huge stone memorial to confederate leaders in georgia. he left that project in a dispute, but that allowed him to hone his mounting carving skills, enabling the rushmore monument, working close to the kkk and may have even been a member of the kkkk. this week in the march on stone mountain by leaders demanding it be taken down. the connection between stone mountain and not rushmore and who is carved into the ancient granite, nick estes, and what he means "indigenous history" what they mean? >> it is important to remember that stone mouountain was a meeting place fofor the ku kluxx klan. it reformed d and constituteted itself in a particular time. that site was chosen because of that particular r significance. so while therere speculation abt whether or n not goodson borglum was a member of the kloa is not as important as the mann --