michael george mentioned the phrase public interest here and we had the guardian the washington post the new york times c.n.n. b.b.c. guy could go on and on they were they were publishing or showing the work of we and they in the leaks was heralded for its investigative work so why isn't the washington post in the new york times why aren't they in the dock as well because they disseminated this information they made a lot of money off of it i suppose too because it was very sensational particularly when we look at the protest the e-mails and the clinton e-mails and that was a real gravy train for all of those news outlets that day in and day out it was a real circus but they picked loved it michael why would why the double standard or maybe there isn't a standard here go ahead michael in london i don't think there is a double standard there original question was about whether journalism and journalists across the board were being criminalized so i was responding to that broad charge and i don't think that that broad charge can be made out at all now george raises rightly the example of the m.p.'s expenses sc

new york. i have to wonder if the guardian the new york times the washington post c.n.n. amisom b.c. are they going to be held account of they going to face espionage charges because they disseminated so much of what we see leaks. released to the public and they profited from it also joe is right here because we keep leaks at the end of the day is a publisher but unlike other publishers it was never proven to be peddling fake news go ahead sarah. well they they reported on it and exposed some of those crimes because it was already out to the whole world and really what was exposed are the dark crimes that the u.s. has committed in its wars two hundred thousand cables video footage images and that should be the response of anyone who is challenging right now this this brutal really this arrest of a songe and that is let's go back and bring a revive bring forward again what it was that wiki leaks exposed what was in those cables let's show again those videos where civilians were helicopter gunships let's show again the torture let's show again guantanamo if they're going to pull julian

new york. i have to wonder if the guardian the new york times the washington post c.n.n. a missing d.c. are they going to be held account of they going to face espionage charges because they disseminated so much of what we see leaks. released to the public and they profited from it also joe is right here because we keep leaks at the end of the day is a publisher but unlike other publishers it was never proven to be peddling fake news go ahead sarah well. they they reported on it and exposed some of those crimes because it was already out to the whole world and really what was exposed are the dark crimes that the u.s. has committed in its wars two hundred thousand cables video footage images and that should be the response of anyone who is challenging right now this this brutal really this arrest of a songe and that is let's go back and bring a revive bring forward again what it was that wiki leaks exposed what was in those cables let's show again those videos where civilians were helicopter gunships let's show again the torture let's show again guantanamo if they're going to pull julian

new york. i have to wonder if the guardian the new york times the washington post c.n.n. amisom b.c. are they going to be held account of they going to face espionage charges because they disseminated so much of what we. released to the public and they profited from it also joe is right here because we keep leaks at the end of the day it's a publisher but unlike other publishers it was never proven to be peddling fake news go ahead sarah. well they they reported on it and exposed some of those crimes because it was already out to the whole world and really what was exposed are the dark crimes that the u.s. has committed in its wars two hundred thousand cables video footage images and that should be the response of anyone who is challenging right now this this brutal really this arrest of a songe and that is let's go back and bring a revive bring forward again what it was that wiki leaks exposed what was in those cables let's show again those videos where civilians were helicopter gunships let's show again the torture let's show again guantanamo if they're going to pull juliana songe

new york. i have to wonder if the guardian the new york times the washington post c.n.n. a missing d.c. are they going to be held account of they going to face espionage charges because they disseminated so much of what we see leaks. released to the public and they profited from it also joe is right here because we keep leaks at the end of the day is a publisher but unlike other publishers it was never proven to be peddling fake news go ahead sarah. well they they reported on it and exposed some of those crimes because it was already out to the whole world and really what was exposed are the dark crimes that the u.s. has committed in its wars two hundred thousand cables video footage images and that should be the response of anyone who is challenging right now this this brutal really this arrest of a songe and that is let's go back and bring a revive bring forward again what it was that wiki leaks exposed what was in those cables let's show again those videos where civilians were helicopter gunships let's show again the torture let's show again guantanamo if they're going to pull julian

media but also human rights groups as you indicated in your lead up so the new york times al-jazeera c.n.n. and the washington post they've written very critically about the referendum and some of the irregularities that have been witnessed on the ground according to eyewitnesses and according to you know. civilians who have voted participate in the voting the egyptian government has released a statement just within the last ninety minutes or so essentially lamenting the international reporting calling it false and then you know going on to sort of declare the alleged democratic and free and fair nature of the vote and that is to be expected this is consistent with past narratives of the egyptian government that there is sort of an international conspiracy against egypt participated in by the likes of al-jazeera the new york times the guardian c.n.n. and the washington post and even human rights groups if it's a foregone conclusion that sort of is going to extend this to we've had very little from the opposition during this process so where does this sort of leave the voice of the opposition dissent criticism with

for twenty two months they hammered away at the fact that he was guilty and the new york times and washington post. they c.n.n. and n.b.c. they hammer their way as well and because i can then came the blue now as trump said this is all things news in fact you are completely wrong and therefore they have to recover from that because the. credibility is under threat so therefore what. trump will do he will he will just leave it to barr but he's there to defend me and bar will in fact say right there's also no evidence that he obstructed justice that's a very very serious case now of. justice is very serious because you have to prove that there actually was intent and also action whether that is very difficult to prove in a court of law so that for the democrats i'm faced with the enormous problem of trying to get evidence which will pass will be in fact accepted by cause of low in a court of law and that is extremely difficult because bars job is to make sure there's nothing in reductive coakley which will be issued very racially which will allow the democrats to pick up that evidence and then proceed to a lega

the russians and collusion something that looks and smells a whole lot like collusion c.n.n. other networks and some of america's more prestigious papers the new york times and washington post included also found it hard to resist and they reverted to some bad journalistic habits american saw in the aftermath of nine eleven. according to u.s. intelligence senior when intelligence sources said that the bush administration's fictional stories of iraqi weapons of mass destruction point we're looking at the same kinds of problems that we saw in the run up to the iraq war and the failure to track down sources to check for actual evidence and for corroborated evidence and a real abandonment of professional standards the embrace all too many. in both cases of a kind of stenographers rule rather than establishing an independent perspective some of the same intelligence officials who were involved in the initial trump russian best a geisha and also were involved in the iraqi the scam were put on cable news as experts former cia director john brennan he is our senior national security and intelligence analyst for amazon the see john brennan head of the cia and james clapper the director of na

the russians and collusion something that looks and smells a whole lot like collusion c.n.n. other networks and some of america's more prestigious papers the new york times and washington post included also found it hard to resist and they reverted to some bad journalistic habits american saw in the aftermath of nine eleven. according to u.s. intelligence senior when intelligence sources said that the bush administration's fictional stories of iraqi weapons of mass destruction point we're looking at the same kinds of problems that we saw in the run up to the iraq war and the failure to track down sources to check for actual evidence and for corroborated evidence and a real abandonment of professional standards the embrace all to mentally in both. basis of a kind of stenographers rule rather than establishing an independent perspective some of the same intelligence officials who were involved in the initial russian best a geisha and also were involved in the iraqi the scam were put on cable news as experts former cia director john brennan he is our senior national security and intelligence analyst for m s n b c john brennan head of the cia and james clapper the director of national i