"new york times" and washington poz every sunday. he was just they were very. >> they were intellectuals. >> was he happy. >> i'm not entirely sure. i think he probably he was a doctor, a medical doctor but he gave up to be a medical doctor and to be a devoted one, he gave up a great deal. >> he gave up what you were. >> he gave up what you are. >> yeah, he gave up literature and art. and those are the two things he loved. very interesting. >> and he knew it. >> yeah, he did know it. and i think there was a poignancy of squandered genius about him always. >> are you more him than your mother's daughter. >> other than i look almost identical to my mother it's shocking how much i look like her or maybe less so now. >> genetics is true. >> yeah, yeah, i tell the story in the back that i was walking down the street in boston onee and a man came up and asked if i was kin to elizabeth evans and he hadn't seen her in over 30 years. and he said. >> i said i'm her daughter. >> you think about all these relationships, the things that you have