washington-itis, but i don't think he will. >> the way i see it, the political rhetoric from most of politicians is in pastel colors. they talk for two hours and then you go away saying, what did they say of substance? probably nothing. but they haven't offended anybody and they have tried to make everybody their friend. they are pastel but donald trump is in vivid colors because he says things the way they are. >> i like his roughness and his ideas come tosque mind. he is tough. he is just tough. john: how many people in this room consider yourselves a member of the tea party? all of those hands up so i can see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. so five. if you didn't put your hand up, do you feel the tea party is a good thing or the tea party doesn't have anything to do with that? cruz, so out of that, i didn't know much about and after seeing trump, it maybe look into it a little bit more. but i am not a full-fledged, but it is interesting. they do raise some really good points. john: i'm going to gore in the about any candidate who has struck you as interesting a little bit. >> ben carson. john: be