about three weeks ago "the washinton post" did a report where they laid out many of the current cases involving people who merely hoarded classified documents, former officials or government contractors who did that. so not talking about people who were traitors, tried to sell out the country to the russians or the chinese, these are people who basically had trusted access to classified information and then brought it home whether to keep it as momentos or what have you. but had it stored in a place where it was not authorized to be, and the justice department came down on them like a ton of bricks. they had a couple people looking at ten-year prison sentences for this. so, you know, this is not just something from the president. in terms of if you are not, you know, joe biden or donald trump or hillary clinton or david patraeus, you know, the ordinary people who have jobs in the executive branch and are trusted with classified information and mishandle it get treated very seriously. >> sandra: andy, in your piece this morning as john mentioned, you say so far the classified documents