wasously, hilary's campaign challenging and had some rocky moments. but has affected relationships. i consider myself friends with most of the people in that picture who i was friends with at the time. >> how did you get your first job with hillary clinton? >> i was working in the communications office of the white house. i had become -- >> president clinton? >> yes. there was a job opening in the domestic policy council on the children and families team under president clinton. there was a domestic policy council, national economic council. the domestic policy council was divided into a series of team spirit the children and families team, there was an education team that turned out to be a tobacco team, welfare team, so on. there was a children and families team that worked on his start child care, after school. there was an opening on that team. that team in the clinton years worked for the domestic policy team but it also worked on first lady hillary clinton posing domestic policy issues. so, and there was an opening on that team and i applied. they interviewed a bunch of people