tapes which prosecutor cox was trying to yet for the watergate grand jury and which the senate watergate committee was trying to get for its hearings. repeating deputy attorney general william ruckleshouse has been discharged by the president. the president, attorney general elliott richardson has resigned following the discharge of watergate special prosecutor archiba archibald cox. this is a bulletin from the news. >> you could tell everybody was shocked, surprised, gasping, and it was really a stunning event. the next day's headlines, you could see, were the lead that nixon had forced the firing of cox. this is why it was called the saturday night massacre. which became the moniker for the events that weekend. as a result, on monday, everything really changed. 44 watergate resolutions and bills were introduced on monday the 23rd. 32 of them called for impeachment proceedings. 12 of them called for the appointment of a special prosecutor. the congress had really done nothing on impeachment until this moment. this was one of those pivot points in this story. as a result of all of this,

garment tended to handle the want non watergate matters with buzhardt handling the watergate matters. he had a long relationship to him, the man who prepared him when he gave his one argument before the supreme court. when he was still in private practice before he had been elected. he was a good trial lawyer buzhardt had been the general counsel of the defense department, had come from capitol here where he worked for a number of prominent and powerful senators. when addressing the question of whether nixon should destroy his tapes, lenghi armen had sent one of his assistance to the law library at the department of justice. and found the case was pretty much on point that showed if somebody destroyed evidence, that they knew would likely be subpoenaed, it was obstruction of justice. buzhardt however, when they went out to visit nixon, who is in the naval hospital, which this is the picture of. he argues to the contrary, he says he has a case that shows that since they have not been subpoenaed, there is no obstruction of justice. over four decades, i've never found buzhardt case. so i

you mentioned about this watergate cover-up nonsense, remember the watergate cover-up when nixon gave interview in the middle of it? is not covering up anything. greg: i don't know, kat. do you think trump has a chance this time was going to go to credit? [laughter] kat: obama got one for he did anything and then he didn't do anything. almost like you shouldn't give preemptive awards. i do say i sort of disagree with your monologue maybe a little bit. not saying that because i'm scared of you i don't have confidence in my own brain, because i do, and bothered by the fact he downplayed the virus but you are correct, he's hardly the first politician person in the influential world to do something like that. all of them have done it. i think it's wrong, it upsets me, i don't want to present in a position of power to hide things from me to make me feel better because i don't want to feel better if the only reason is my own ignorance. we should get all the facts and even if we freak out, if we decide we want to feel better by making ourselves dumb, there's always drinking. greg: that is tr

greg: maybe watergate wasn't so bad if everything's worse than it.mp refused to panic while behind the scenes, he went to work. how is this a bombshell or smoking gun when we already heard about it publicly? >> is there any criticism you may have pulled american into a false sense of security when you said these things? >> i am a positive person. it easy to be negative about but i want to give people hope, i am a cheerleader for the country. greg: that is some cover. how is that a smoking gun? i do wonder how bob woodward get these gigs. the going to be interviewed by woodward is like accepting an invitation from jeffrey dahmer to dinner. it's a potluck and you are in the pot. he wants them to say we are all going to die. here's an analogy, good doctor sees something on an x-ray and doesn't know what is because you they are going to do another test. it might be something so don't panic. why? unnecessary panic is cruelty. you don't do that. the media does. one of cnn were good doctor. out of the blue he gives you a call, look, he says, my sources tell

people could not put watergate in context, initially. why would they break into democratic headquarters? nobody knew it was part of a broader strategy of sabotaging democratic campaigns. the bigger story was the eagleton affair, not watergate, and that is one of the reasons the democrats could not capitalize on watergate. >> we'll talk more about what is happening with nixon at this time, but first, let me show you a couple of campaign ads from this. >> one of the reasons i am disturbed by the president's $10 million secret election fund is that it indicates that there is something he is afraid to disclose. whether they hiding? i am perfectly willing -- what are they hiding? i am perfectly willing to publish to be donated every single dollar to my campaign. but the president is covering it up. it is the sort of thing that puts the tarnish on the whole nation. >> i can only say the thing that motivated might change -- might change -- my change was a year of collecting pure, unaffected fax. -- facts. >> i want to make this pledge to sammy

watergate was the latest and greatest manifestation of the general hostility against societal norms.ress smells blood, they never relented on watergate , justly so because he tried to norms over the election defensively,sily, and the cover-up was worse than the crime. has -- it'snixon always good to have a press secretary. i am a former political press secretary and it's a hard job. you have to tell the truth to the press, keep the press informed, keep your loyalty to the candidate who will be the elected official, and stay informed by the candidate. , you have to leak very, very carefully. president nixon had ron zigler as a press secretary who was not trusted by the press. and not even liked by the president. his spin doctors, his operatives, his communication was crafting the dark strategy of his attack on the media. he was really the first president to make media attacks an integral part of his platform in his daily method of operation. and the press were never going to be interested in finding his corner, much less being in his corner after that. is the storyook not just of the

and then, of course, the watergate cover-up in which he said very few true things to the press in theinal year and a half of this presidency. susan: by the time watergate broke, was the relationship with the press corps at large just so fractured that there was no reservoir of goodwill towards him? is that fair to say? mr. holzer: i would absolutely agree with that. there was no sympathy for richard nixon. he was too dark a figure. he was too calculating a figure. he was too aggressive and sicker to figure. watergate was the latest and greatest manifestation of the general hostility against societal norms. once the press smells blood, they never relented on watergate, justly so because he tried to destroy norms over the election process, clumsily, defensively, and the cover-up was worse than the crime. by the way, nixon has -- just a pointed out, it is always good to have a press secretary. i am a former political press secretary and it's a hard job. you have to tell the truth to the press, keep the press informed, keep your loyalty to the candidate who will be the elected official, a

and the one word is innocent the basic storyline that after vietnam and after watergate and the ordealagflation and america realizing for the first time it's not to spend the world of a colossus but also citizenship where people were hard that the idea of the nation and that got us into vietnam and to look at and a challenging way all over the place. and then not only the left but also the center and reagan comes along and says we are the chosen nation of god always be gods to it on - - chosen nation. for president in 1976, and loses so this culminates to winning the presidency and in one of those aspects that discusses in the first transaction man on the way out and in coalition with other elements. so i write about jerry falwell turning america into the sinks. i read about the corporate world savagely organizing him what i talk about. with full harmony and you will about this also steve and the striking charisma with the warmth and optimism that president jimmy carter has organized his own presidency around the idea that we have to do more. and basically to see the world as a the the

perhaps the watergate tapes did feel larger because of their secrecy or intrigue. politico teeing off that same thing with donald trump himself, shallow throat instead of deep throat, stressing that both the embarrassing stefld owned donald trump has committed here and the tension between these gaffe like confessions in the open really shows something else going on. that there aren't the complex leaks you had in the watergate era but shallow leaks donald trump. meanwhile trump says pelosi shows contempt for the public. >> what the president did in those comments showed his contempt contempt for the american people and their health. contempt for science. contempt for any real effort to crush the buyers. contempt for his supporters. their children. their parents. >> that's a lot of criticism. how do you rebut that? sean hannity came one something. he argues trump's claimed desire to avoid a panic is like fdr rallying americans against fear in world war ii which drew headlines like this. handy's most absurd defense yet of trump. on woodward's tapes. the seriesness of

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not tainted by all the ills of watergate and all that it meant.alled him up and i said, governor, i think you should run for president. >> jimmy carter doesn't need much persuading. his faith in himself is unshakeable. >> his politics are very much informed by his religion. he talked often about how that gave him a calling. >> if you believe that god has a plan for you, and in his case, he thought it was a pretty big plan, that i think gave him a great deal of inner confidence. >> and so jimmy carter throws his hat into the ring of the 1976 election two years before election day. >> there is a time to restore confidence in government. >> jimmy carter could say, don't blame me for your dislike of washington, d.c. i've had no part of it. >> and he said i'll never lie to you. i'll never make a misleading statement. if i do, don't vote for me. >> the best way i know, or anyone in a position of leadership to earn the trust of our people is very simple. be trustworthy. >> he marketed himself as a blue jean pop list who was slightly left central. a moder

look what we did in watergate. we insisted that we have second sources, third sources, that's the way you do it. then let's look at the real record of donald trump. donald trump is the big lie. he is the big lie. his presidency is the big lie. those 20,000 catalog smaller lies add up to the reality of the lie and how do we fight against the lie? we simply report the truth whatever it takes us. that's what we've been doing. the reason the american people know what the reality of this president and presidency is and have the basis to make their own decisions like him or not like him, is because of the great reporting and almost all of it, the crucial stuff, has been based on anonymous sources. >> which then is sometimes, oftentimes actually, verified later on the record by others. jeffrey -- >> context. >> yeah. jeffrey, last word to you. >> well, i agree with what carl said. his framing is very interesting that trump is the big lie. one of the tactics that they use, people in the white house and supporters, is to ha

he finds are hard to believe, but also does not believe kissinger is responsible for watergate. this?s his role in he extends executive power in ways that no other advisor did and then becomes, as tom says, the foreign-policy president who no one elected. raising the nuclear alert. tom covers is very well, without consulting the president in 1970 three. to what extent are the abuses of ?ower we see thereafter are they connected to kissinger? how much of his story is the story of the abuse of the executive power? i asked him that and he was very, very angry. i hope tom will not be angry in answering that as he was. political animal in a democratic political context, why does he love dictator so much? it does not negate the argument that he might be a political animal, but it is not what you would expect. it's not what you would expect. was willingn, who to work with dictators, really had this belief that other societies were eventually going to reform and become more democratic. he had a connection he believed to what you believed would happen that societies change. kissinger had

president's men was a response to a profound loss of faith in american institutions, following both watergatenow, political tensions in the us are boiling over, which makes these films more relevant than ever. political films can motivate the populace. mr smith goes to washington came out in 1939. that inspired a lot of people to go into politics, because at the end of the day, it was seen as idealistic — even though i don't personally think that it really was. but we will put a pin in that. and then all the president's men inspires all these people to go intojournalism. they both have that galvanising effect on viewers, which is to bring you in enough to think, "i want to do that." so they exerted that power that film can do, and they both did it beautifully. i honestly, i think that's down to the craft more than the explicit politics. similar in tone but somewhat less heralded is the 2000 film the contender, in which a senator, played by joan allen, is nominated to fill the vice presidency, but is subjected to intense sexism during her confirmation hearings. it reckons seriously with the ug

or at least that was how they appached watergate. as someone who's been in the trenches, i mean, is that your experience, do you think? is that what good reporters do, and is that what most reporters at they're after the truth rather than an outcome? >> i ctainly think that's what a good reporter does, but i don't think that's what we get a lot of now. going back to what i was saying earlier, it's -- it's not just about the truth. certainly, that has to be a top priority for them. but it's also about not tainting the truth or swaying the way that a reader looks at a story one way or anothe one version higher than another. >> let me ask you a different question aboutob woodward. this is the quote heard 'round the world. president trump said to bob woodward, quote... y if are white house press secretary during the coronavirus at the outbreak, as it went, would you have advised at playing it down was the right strategy? >> well, i would advise thatun keeping the y calm and not creating hysteria is a good thing. i think he has had an unp

after really built out watergate there was woodward and following the money laundered through mexico. this is a long-standing ban on foreign sources in our election. fart of the studies thus have focused on the challenge of foreign money. .t starts with the laws that is in the united states in other countries. the library of congress, they look at this and found it is illegal. our research has been quite different. our research starts with the bad activity. the cases of financial interference. we see perpetrated around the world throughout the past decade. we figure out why they were able to do that. what legal loopholes were they able to exploit around that statute? host: in response to what has happened in 2016 and since, democrats have proposed the shield act which would create a duty to report all campaign assistance from foreign governments. it would improve transparency of online political advertisement. changes restrict between candidates and foreign governments and prohibit practices about voting procedures. where does that stand in terms of passage in the u.s. house? house it

president's men was a response to a profound loss of faith in american institutions, following both watergatet still provide uplifting conclusions. right now, political tensions in the us are boiling over, which makes these films more relevant than ever. political films can motivate the populace. mr smith goes to washington came out in 1939. that inspired a lot of people to go into politics, because at the end of the day, it was seen as idealistic — even though i don't personally think that it really was. but we will put a pin in that. and then all the president's men inspires all these people to go intojournalism. they both have that galvanising effect on viewers, which is to bring you in enough to think, "i want to do that." so they exerted that power that film can do, and they both did it beautifully. i honestly, i think that's down to the craft more than the explicit politics. similar in tone but somewhat less heralded is the 2000 film the contender, in which a senator, played by joan allen, is nominated to fill the vice presidency, but is subjected to intense sexism during her confirmati

, watergate was kind of the trauma here is so powerfully about some degree of independence it doesn'ting rogue, but it means if you catch a senator taking a bribe and even if he might be an ally of the president you should be making that determination of whether to bring charges without fear or favor. >> or if you catch, for example, a national security advisor getting too cozy with the russians and then lying to the fbi about it that should be something that a now appointed attorney general stays out of we've got to remember this is bill barr's modus operandi going back to the first bush administration he was the one that advised bush to pardon all the people who might testify against him regarding the elder bush's involvement in iran contra this is bill barr. bill barr is a republican lawyer and has been a republican attorney general at two times of major scandal. and in both times he's decided to take the side of defending the executive branch rather than defending the american people and the constitution i think, you know, our republican friends when this is all over have to take

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reporters bob woodward and carl bernstein, played by robert redford and dustin hoffman, uncover the watergateg exceedingly well crafted, each film delivers the same promise of hope to a different generation of americans reeling from trauma. mr smith goes to washington came at the end of the great depression, a decade of poverty and disillusionment in the american system. while all the president's men was a response to a profound loss of faith in american institutions, following both watergate in the vietnam war. the films succeed because they engage with our darker impulses, but still provide uplifting conclusions. right now, political tensions in the us are boiling over, which makes these films more relevant than ever. political films can motivate the populace. mr smith goes to washington came out in 1939. that inspired a lot of people to go into politics, because at the end of the day, it was seen as idealistic — even though i don't personally think that it really was. but we will put a pin in that. and all the president's men inspires all these people to go into journalism. they both have

after watergate, congress enacted a series of landmark laws and reforms. they changed the way that politics was conducted. they established laws to prevent the abuse of authority and to ensure that it would be discovered. we are taking a similar step today to restore checks and balances, to protect our elections, and to protect the legacy of our founders. with that, i'm pleased to turn this over to our leader, speaker pelosi. >> thank you very much, chairman schiff, for your great leadership and your excellent statement. i associate myself fully with your remarks, and i come to this podium to thank the chairs for the great work that they have done to protect our democracy. adam schiff, who led us in this discussion, chairman jerry nadler of the judiciary committee, carol maloney of the oversight and reform committee, chairman john harmon of the budget committee, chair love kin who will be with us virtually, chairman elliott engle from foreign affairs and chairman richie neil, chair of the ways and means committee. our founders, in their wisdom, put guardra

much bigger than watergate. they try to avoid it as much as possible. it is getting very hard to avoid. we will take a couple of questions. you may have a question for these two wonderful people, very brilliant from the standpoint of politics i would say and law. kaylee.ave anything for >> last wednesday when you were speaking to the attorney general you said that federal judges were watching what was going on with mail-in ballots. do you open amy coney barrett is watching as well? president trump i think she has. i hope she is. i think we have made it a big issue. so many reports with funny ballots. i do not know if it would have been reported before, but all of these rallies with thousands of people last night as you know, and we were in harrisburg, pennsylvania. at the night before we were in virginia. , 30,000, those crowds are massive. that is on very short notice. all of those people watching. we have eyes and ears now that we would not have had. i am sure that she is watching and i am sure that everybody

nixon a few it's months after watergate came out said this is illegal. people did things. i'm responsible. i apologize to the country. i apologize to the democratic national committee, where they had the offices that the burglars broke into. just kind of waited out -- just kind of laid it out in a soulful way. that soulful, but if he had apologized -- and hadp agreed -- if nixon apologized watergate would have gone away. i said on this if you apologized -- and he said, i would never apologize. i didn't do anything wrong. we went back to, is this a good policy? ivanka, youryo daughter, and walk on this beautiful property, mar-a-lago, and have a father daughter talk and ask her if she would recommend that you apologize. he said i wouldn't do that, it wouldn't make any difference what she said. i think it wasn't going to make any difference what anyone said. this is part of the problem with trump as president. he gets things in his head, and he will not get them out. he will not listen to others. they have no process. in extensivegh detail in the book his national matus, thea

korea, watergate, and then during the past 12 years, the fantastic national scandals that came about the s.n.l. situation and the issue pertaining to the ir iran-contra hearings. we've gotten to the point where they are not really holding on to following persons necessarily in either one of the two parties. they're saying enough is enough. we are willing now at this point in the year 1992 to really do something to bring about a change. they're fed up. as i traveled throughout the country in the farm communities, rural communities, inner city areas, you find people saying the same thing over and over again in different terms, we're fed up. don't ask me about issues. we want somebody that's going to bring about change. that's the most important word now that you hear constantly. everybody is talking about change. >> you think that that -- is that your explanation for the appeal of ross perot? >> yes. i think it's part of the appeal. they see ross perot as a man who is a billionaire and who has kept very close to his own what he stands for and what his overall agenda is, but all they kn

as a result of a series of experiences in this country that career gate at, cannes, watergate. and then during the past 12 years, the fantastic scandals that came about. really, where they are not really holding on to inlowing persons necessarily either one of the two parties. in other words, they are saying enough is enough. we are now at this point, in 1992, to really do something to bring about the change. the travel throughout country come in the farm communities, the rural communities, and inner cities, you find people saying the same thing over and over again in different terms. they are fed up. don't ask me about issues i mean if you know we want somebody is going to bring about change that's the most important word now that you hear constantly. everybody is talking about change. >> do you think -- is that your explanation for the appeal of ross perot. yes i think it's part of. it's part of the appeal they're seeing ross perot. all the notice from the little bit they have heard is that he has been a man of action. he doesn't talk a whole lot. he gets things done. he is a

but as a result of the watergate hearings it came out that he did it. it was a very negative and untruthful things that were said about me was also said about humphrey and others. the most slimy types of remarks and my friends in california alerted me to it. and later he apologized to all of us. >> personally? >> not personally, but by the newspapers -- >> do you think those tricks had any affect on your campaign? >> no. not really. >> there are some other people, what was jesse jackson doing at the time that you were running? what was his role in politics? >> jesse jackson never supported me for the presidency, although i supported him in '84, '88. he called on me to do a lot of things. but jesse jackson never supported me for the presidency. >> did you ask for his support? >> at that time it was early in the game back in '72 and jesse jackson was aligned with the black power boys that were meeting in indiana trying to stop me. he was a part of that group who felt that a black woman who didn't consult the brothers have no business running for presidenc

attorneys, people that were watching those the culture particularly is post watergate. kind of the trauma here is so powerfully about some degree of independence it does not mean like going rogue. if you catch a senator taking a bribe and even he may be an ally of the president, you should be making that determination whether to bring charges for your favor >> or if you catch for example, national security advisors getting too chlozy with the russians, lying to the fbi about it >> we have to remember this is bill barr going back to the bush administration he was the one who advised bush to pardon all the people who may testify against him regarding the elder bush's involved. this is bill barr. bill barr is a republican lawyer and has been a republican attorney general at two times at major scandal and both times he decided to take the side of defending the executive branch rather than the american people of the constitution. our republican friends when thi is all over have to take a long look at themselves and decide how they created a party that produced a bill barr ov

believe this and we started talking more about nixon and i said look, if nixon a few months after watergate had come out and said, you know, this is illegal people did things and i am responsible and i apologize to the country and i apologized to the democratic national committee and where they had the offices burglars broke into and just laid it out in a sorrowful way and nixon was not that soulful but if he had done this and had apologized and trump agreed that nixon had apologized watergate would have gone away and on this if you apologize and he never apologized and he did not do anything wrong but i said if we went back to this is a good policy and take your daughter who walked on this beautiful property in mar-a-lago and have a father daughter talk and ask her if he would recommend that you apologize and he said i will not do that and would not make any difference and it would not make any difference what anyone said and this is the problem with trump as president and he gets things in his head and he will not get them out. he will not listen to others and they have no process and as

and you started off with watergate and exposing richard nixon. down with you for over nine hours in a late night phone call? what was he trying to do? well, i wrote a book in 2018: fear, about his first two years in the white house and he denounced it as fiction, a couple of people close to him said by the way, mr president, it's true and donald trump agreed to talk to me and i made it very clear one into the oval office, took my little olympus tape recorder, put it down and said this is all on the record for a book that will come out before the election and soi will come out before the election and so i was able to take all the issues of the day, like the virus, his handling of the virus, it is a medical and moral catastrophe for this country and it is on his head because he knew it was coming, he was warned of the kind of details that you do not see that often and he saw this and he heard this. the book is rage, congratulations and thank you forjoining us. tonight's presidential debate poses two very different challenges for the candidates. for

how dangerous coronavirus was back in february but according to a new book by bob woodward of the watergateame, the president had intentionally misled the public by playing down the virus to prevent panic. he did play down the disease of the beginning. that was played down in full view indian press briefings, this will be quite a good book by bob woodward, he did many interviews in december 19 and july 2020, spanning the entire first eight months of this virus as it emerged at a china and this is coming from some leaks to the washington post and cnn and will wait to see what they have to say because i think donald trump's handling of the virus in the issue of wearing a mask and not to wear a mask and whether he will get a vaccine before the election will have a bearing on november's election and whetherjoe biden can defeat him. for the time being, thank you so much, we are out of time for this edition of the papers, but you will be back within just underan but you will be back within just under an hour's time, so for the time being, thank you and thank you to our viewers. if you like to mak

that seems to be the white house approach now and watergate seems miles from today's standards. it seems we would have more information from those candidates in 1960 and we have come full circle in that we are so satiated, it no longer seems to matter. host: martin, a republican, good morning. caller: good morning. host: turn down your television so we can hear you. caller: can you hear me now? host: yes, what is your question or comment? caller: i have a comment that has been bothering me for a while. i think our news has become propagandized too much. i'mok at one channel if hearing somebody speak and i turn the channels, i am getting all different answers or rhetoric that is not true. i feel like the news should be think weed and i don't would ever have propaganda has propagandization in our news. guest: i would not say we have never had what he calls propaganda. we have times in our press history going back to the founding -- i am in charlottesville, virginia, and thomas jefferson was excoriated by the press on the opposite side of the political idols for years, so we -- pol

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. >> yes, i mean, it would be helpful to take a step back, basically pre-watergate and up through the nixon administration, we did look at the attorney general as a reward working on campaigns and once attorney general, the president would think that a.g. would help protect them and be a fixer itself. that came to a halt with watergate because it seemed so extreme, that level of closeness/corruption. they created new rules that would limit that. we have had a couple of decades a separation from the white house and the justice department and what helps do in the minds of the american people is reinforce the idea that justice is meted out fairly. when you see barr bringing the justice department back into the white house, one of the things really concerns current justice department lawyers is is that that separation, that idea that justice will be out fairly is being thrown to the wind in order to help president trump win this re-election. >> let's switch gears for a moment and talk about to the doj inquiry into the russia investigation, "the new york times" also reported that john durh

cold with a photograph over the shoulder of sam irwin and there was john dean testifying at the watergates. there were tapes then and tapes now. did you know as you taped president trump it would have an impact much akin to what we saw from the watergate hearings? bob: no. i certainly did not. i was thinking of not releasing the audio, and jamie danielle at me,and my wife persuaded no, in this era when people distrust everything, trump's voice is the most recognizable voice in the world. put it out and people can hear .t for themselves even after doing this for 50 years you learn things about how to communicate, and quite thattly i did not realize we now released 38 clips. hasink my assistant still eight hours and 30 minutes in the can. we will release things that might become relevant, for instance when the supreme court issue came up, who trump was that he hadinate the opportunity to replace ruth bader ginsburg, we dug into the tapes and found a number of things that were quite relevant that trump said about his relationship with mitch s veryell and trump' passionate drive to change the

servidor de correo electrÓnico privado, mientras era secretaria de estado, era algo peor que el watergate. fort hood ha estado el centro de las noticias por el asesinato de vanessa guillÉn y la desapariciÓn y muerte de otro soldado. ademÁs incluyen el arresto de militares en una operaciÓn de prostituciÓn y el suicidio de varios soldados. faltan dos meses para las elecciones presidenciales en este paÍs. en medio de la pandemia, muchas personas temen contagiarse, si acuden a un centro de votaciÓn. prefiere votar por correo. la disyuntiva de votar en persona o por correo, se ha convertido en una controversia polÍtica. claudia: a casi dos meses para las elecciones presidenciales, y en medio de la pandemia, hay quienes tienen claro cÓmo votarÁn. >> voy a votar en persona porque es mÁs seguro el voto. >> por correo, porque con este virus acÁ afuera... claudia: como se espera una cifra rÉcord de electores por correo, se han intensificado las peleas polÍticas. la fiscalÍa republicana de texas demandÓ al condado de harris por sus planes de enviar mÁs de 2 millones de solicitudes de voto por correo

and i said look at nixon, a few months after watergate had come out and said, you know, this is illegal. people did things. i'm responsible. i apologize to the country. i apologize to the democratic national committee. and they had the office that the burglars broke into, and just kind of laid it out in a soulful way. now, nixon was not that soulful, but if he had done this, if he apologized and trump agreed, oh, yeah, nixon apologized, watergate would have gone away. i said, okay, on this, if you apologize, and he said, oh, i'd never apologize. and i didn't do anything wrong. i said, well, we went back to is this a good policy? and i said, take ivanka, your daughter, walking on this beautiful property that you have down here in mar-a-lago, and have a father/daughter talk and ask her if she would recommend that you apologize. and he said, i'm not going to do that. it wouldn't make any difference what she said. i think it wasn't going to make any difference what anyone said. and this is part of the problem with trump as president. he gets things in his head, and he will not get them out.

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little reason to worry, but -- >> remember those from watergate, howard baker. what did the president know and when did he know it? that's what bob woodward lays out in this book. what we know is from woodward's dh account on january 28th security adviser robert o'brien tells him in a tough secret briefing this is going to be the greatest threat of your presidency. at the same time, the president is, as you said, playing it down. but what woodward did with the president's permission was, he recorded all of these interviews. there are 18 wide-ranging interviews. and what we're going to play you first is the president in his own words, february 7th, telling woodward in striking detail just how much he understands about how deadly and dangerous the virus is. >> and so what was president xi saying yesterday? >> we were talking mostly about the -- the virus, and i think he's going to have it in good shape, but you know, it's a very tricky situation. it goes through air, bob. that's always tougher than the touch. you know? the touch you don't have to touch things. rig