we return now to our conversation with wayne barrett, considered the preeminent journalist on donald ump. waynyne barrett has been trackig trump for decades. his book has been republished as an e-book titled, "trump: ththe greatest show on earth: the deals, the downfall, the reinvention." to gonzalez and i spoke wayne barrett at his home where he largelyly has been confined e to his battle with lung cancer. we asked wayne barrett about donald trump's unkempt promise -- and kept promise. >> i think that is one of the stories. times" andthink "the "the washington post" have been excellent stories -- and politico, excellent stories on his atlantic city debacle, really, but he made a commitment in atlantic city and tony wightman was the city's housing commissioner who went to work for donald. housing was his specialty and gliedman helped negotiate these. four out of five mayors went to jail during the time that donald was dominant. he had incredible relationships with most of them. but he signed these agreements because he was getting city-owned property near the taj . he was getting all

the inclination to read entire books but good incisive profiles on donald trump starting with wayne barrett's work in 1979. and in new york magazine and vanity fair in 1990 and buzz feet in 2014. it is not known. all of this is known. he has been a public figure and people have been reporting on him, for decades. put it into google, start reading. >> going to a lot of these rallies, in chapter 2, is have fun. and in the rope line, at the rally, she spends 30 minutes where people stand and talk to him. his favorite are the people holding the "the art of the deal". there are so many people who say please sign my book, he signed every darn book that is out there. more than the hats he makes money on, more than a sign. it is "the art of the deal". probably the number one best-selling book out there. >> is that true? >> he did that. >> the tampa bay times looked at this, maybe it is the fifth or sixth. had to make friends and influence people, i like what you are saying about fun. this is the most fun he is going to have, something in this book, and the other two, what he is about is the chase, th

entire books , there are oodles of really good, incisive profiles on donald trump starting with wayne barrett's work in the village voice in 1979 where lee brenner in new york magazine and in vanity fair, 1990 until kaufman for buzzfeed in 2014it's not that trump is not known . it's that all of this is known. he's been a public figure and people have beenreporting on him and not just in fluffy celebrity ways at all . for decades, put it into google. start reading. the way i see it, it is your homework as an engaged citizen between now and november. >> i can tell you, going to a lot of these rallies, one of the elements of the deal in chapter 2 is the last element of the deal is have fun and when i have seen donald trump have fun is in the rope line. he does have fun at the rally getting all these people excited. he goes in the rope line and sometimes he spends minutes in the rope line where people stand and talk to him. his favorite people to talk to are the people holding "the art of the deal" and there are so many people that say please sign my book, he signs every darn book that is out there