joining me is wayne frederick, president of howard university. dr. frederick, let me say for people tonight know why this is such an important issue, because hbcus may represent a small number of total colleges in the united states, but 40% of black members of congress were hbcu graduates, in addition to all black lawyers and 80% of all black judges. wi these closures have a ripple effect on black leadership for years ahead in this country, don't they? >> that's correct. we represent a significant pipeline that has diversified many fields in this country, as you just demonstrated in that graphic. just as important as we look at this current generation, we look at howard university, 49% of my students actually are program eligible. these students are coming for financial circumstances that leave them disadvantaged and we're giving they an opportunity to really get into some of these professions, et cetera. and something like this could really devastate that pipeline and really impact their ability to matriculate at our universities and colleges. >> so