>> i won't even know who wayne gretzky is. [laughter] >> he is a basketball player. >> no, he's a hockey player. >> i know he was a sports guy. [laughter] >> [inaudible] >> you know kobe bryant? [laughter] >> look, i don't take the position that -- let me -- ivies you have to start with the idea that people are going to hear things about trials and cases, some of which will be the kind of things that point i or other will not have mounted them to hear about. light filtering out the public we can sort of preserve a certain benign level loved a mom's i think if it were ever to it is gone. we would just have to deal with it. that's the reality. and so what we have to do is not try to filter out with the public hears which i think is impossible and so the the kosoff dealer in but what we have to do is deal with the reality that people are going to hear things and that we have to either steer them out depending on whether they have affected their ability to be fair and educate them, and we have to assume those of us who dealt with