liz: well, when you talk about hockey and make that analogy, wayne gretzky says going where the about you can is going than where it actually is at the moment. when you look ahead, gerri and you've watched that, we do not have a long-term budget now approved. >> true. liz: we're facing another government shutdown and where is that discussion? you know, you've got to take the bad with the good as well. >> well, we've got a long way to go on a lot of fundamental issues, my fear is we've hit january, that the big, great thing that this administration has done is tax reform and getting past that and doing more is going to be hard. they want to do infrastructure, they want to do health care, they've got a long list of priorities they want to go after. it's going to take a lot of work and when it comes to the budget, you've got to have democrats signing on board with you. that's going to be super kume difficult. i think the road is uphill and donald trump is going to use his bully pulpit twitter account. >> can i say, if they don't do anything about the debt and deficits the next ten years,