so i have a big problem with somehow wayne lapierre saying something that i don't agree with and trying to raise money, but the president of the united states, out of his own mouth, and taking the same podium from mr. hoffa said, oh, mr. president, we're your army, we're going to take them out, is reprehensible. but still, the cry about mr. obama allowing democrats and union members to say bad things about the republicans and the americans he was elected to serve, that's an entirely different standard. >> i can't help you if you don't see the difference. let me go to mayor brown. they're calling the president guilty of a big, fat, stinking lie. that's pretty direct. accusing him of hatching a conspiracy to undermine the constitutional protection to bear arms. what is this about? why do they have to do it? are they trying to raise money? do they really believe this stuff? what's going on at the national rifle association here? >> let me assure you that barack obama as the president of the united states obviously finds what was said quite disgusting, but he also knows that it can not be t

that ought to make their c.e.o., wayne lapierre, a pretty happy man. >> it's a big, fat, stinkin lie. it's all part of a massive obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the second amendment in our country. >> jon: go on? >> that's their agenda. if anyone doubts that, think. use your common sense ( laughter ) >> jon: or use mine-- i'm clearly not using it. ( laughter ) it's just sitting in my brain collecting dust. barack obama's been good to the n.r.a., but for lapierre, if you want to take away his preconceived narrative, you have to pry it from his cold, dead, hands. >> before the president was even sworn into office, they met and they had the conspiracy of public deception to try to guarantee his reelection in 2012. they concocked a scheme to stay away from the gun issue, lull gun owners to sleep and play us for fools in 2012. >> jon: barack obama will court his liberal base by running on change, get elected, fail to deliver the change with a congress from his same party, thus alienating that base in an attempt to win over the people that hate him

." >> i don't agree with what he had to say, but to suggest that somehow wayne lapierre is somehow some fringe element, let us not forget that the president of the united states has said about his own constituencies, if they bring a knife to a fight, let's bring a gun. this is the same president of the united states who said that the republicans should ride in the back of the bus. this is the same president of the united states who was introduced on stage by jimmy hoffa, who said, mr. president, we are your army, let's take them out. so i have a big problem with somehow wayne lapierre saying something that i don't agree with and trying to raise money, but the president of the united states, out of his own mouth, and taking the same podium from mr. hoffa said, oh, mr. president, we're your army, we're going to take them out, is rep reprehensible. but still, the cry about mr. obama allowing democrats and union members to say bad things about the republicans tand the americans he was elected to serve -- >> i can't help you if you don't see the difference. mayor brown, they're calling the p